Hi Bud,
I believe Donna was talking about a stand-alone version of Fine
reader, where as I thought you used it from within Kurzweil. If in
fact you are not using Kurzweil ignore this message, but if so, you
can easily turn columns mode on and off.
I believe the original setting for columns mode is on, and while
that is good to have on for textbooks, newspapers, and magazines,
you don't need it on for our typical non-fiction or fiction book. In
fact, for things like table of contents you specifically want it turned off.
For example, if columns mode were on when scanning a table of
contents you would probably hear chapter one, chapter two, chapter
three, chapter four, and so on, followed by 1, 17, 32, 50, and so
on. It's not purposefully butchering it, but yet is reading down the
first column followed by the second, which is of course what you do
want it to do in magazines and other things formatted that way. In
our case we would now have no way to know which page number
correlated to which chapter number, so what you do is turn off
columns mode before scanning, and then instead of reading down the
columns it will now read across the row like chapter one, 1, chapter
two, 17, chapter three, 32, chapter four, 50.
To turn it off or back on again push the six on the numeric keypad.
Kurzweil will announce the status of the setting as you change it in
either direction.
Finally, Did you know you could change the setting and rerecognize a
page without actually having to find the printed page and rescanning it?
I won't bother to write the steps unless you want me to, but this is
yet another great advantage of Kurzweil over OpenBook. Or, at least
it was the last time I did a good strong comparison. That admittedly
was a while ago, so things may have changed since then.
Tiff
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From: <mailto:budschwab@xxxxxxxxxxx>Bud Schwab
To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:08 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Old FR Discussion
Hi Donna and gang,
I guess the reader you are referring to as f r is fine engine. I am
having trouble with a page every once in a while going to columns
and reading down calling each line as it goes. I think that's what
you are referring to. I hadn't pinpointed it to a particular
reading engine. I wonder if they all do it at times and why they
do. I read mostly using one of the scansoft engines and get good
results mostly but have two particular problems. One is of course
this column thing. the other thing is that it puts a space in the
middle of a word occasionally, and also runs two words together
without the required space. Any ideas as to how to eliminate
these? And I didn't quite follow what you did with fine engine to
eliminate the column stuff. Whatever it is maybe it will work with
the other reading engines also. Hope that's clear. I do most of my
scanning for Bookshare so I like to have it come out the best possible.
Thanks.
Bud Schwab
At 07:42 PM 5/8/2006, you wrote:
Hi all.
A few months ago when we were discussing FR8 and it's virtues and
challenges, someone was talking about a problem with it seeing
pages as a text box/column/table and looking for solutions to this
problem. It was shortly after his that I had computer problems and
a lot of work to get done for my job, so I just let all this slide
for a while. Last weekend I revived FR7 and started scanning
again, and was surprised to find myself with the same problem of
pages appearing as text boxes/columns/tables. It was every other page.
Anyway, I know that I wasn't having this problem previously, so I
started investigating its source. Thanks to whoever saved my
lengthy post about settings for FR and posted it to the tips web
site, I discovered that there was one setting that was off. There
is a drop-down box where you can choose format layout to
retain. Retain full page layout is the default and it is the one
that creates the problem. The selection directly under this is
Retain font and font size, and with this selected, you retain the
general page layout without the table problem.
I'd be interested to know if this fixes the problem for FR8 as I
never bought the upgrade.
Peace and Hope,
Donna
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