[bksvol-discuss] Re: O.T when can we get firefox?

  • From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:52:11 -0500

Hey Cindy,
Firefox is available as a free download yes, but assistive technology like JAWS and Window-Eyes are not yet prepared to work with the software. There are lots of built-in functionality so that we can navigate the web as efficiently as possible and all of that has to be prepared to work in Firefox's environment.

Window Eyes has released the first public beta that supports firefox and Pratik announced that JAWS is set to release at the end of this month with Firefox support.

So until then we are stuck without it. And of course half the reasons Firefox is more secure is because hackers are not heavily targeting it yet....

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 2:45 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: O.T when can we get firefox?

I don't quite understand the rest of your subject
heading, the questions "When can we get firefox?  It's
available as a free download, I believe. My husband
has both firefox and safari on his Mac with the OS 10.
I find validating with Word on the OS 10 too annoying
--the up and down arrows are so slow and jerky--so I'm
sticking with my Mac with the OS 9

I subscribe (free) to Tourbus--a great source for
information about useful online sites and other web
information -- it's how I found out about google
several years ago. A recent Tourbus pointed out a
couple of problems with firefox.

Here's what it said:

"Oh my... I can see the rotten tomatoes flying my way
already.  But I have a confession to make.  I've tried
Firefox on numerous occasions but I'm sticking with
Internet Explorer, at least for now.

Why?  There are a bunch of reasons.  First off, I'm
just not convinced that Firefox is any guarantee of
better online safety.  Sure, there have been some
nasty bugs in Explorer, but if you run Windows Update
on autopilot, along with up-to-date anti-virus and
anti-spyware software, there are no serious exposures
that I'm aware of.

And Firefox has not proven to be immune to security
breaches.  If  you're not running the very latest
version, you could be at risk. As Firefox grows in
popularity, it will become a more interesting target
for hackers and crackers.


I also am annoyed that the fonts display differently
on Firefox, there
is no way to combine toolbars, and CSS elements just
don't render correctly in some cases.  I've also had
numerous problems installing plugins.  Firefox keeps
telling me to install Internet Explorer, the Windows
Media Player and other stuff I already have, just to
make some silly plugin work.  (And ummm, isn't the
whole idea of using Firefox
to GET AWAY from Explorer?)

By all means, give Firefox a try, if only to prove to
yourself that you can live without Microsoft owning
everything on your desktop.  I don't deny that Firefox
is an excellent browser, and it has some cool features
like tabbed browsing that you may love.  If it's any
consolation, I did switch from Outlook Express to
Thunderbird.  :-) "

I gather Thunderbird is firefox's email.  I use online
emails, as you can tell. (smile)


--- robert tweedy <rtweedy2@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Read this and I tried it and the wbbsite read it. Hi
to the list.
I had run across an article in a tech news
publication and found this quite interesting.
Many times, as a matter of convenience, you may copy
information to your Windows clipboard to paste into
a web form.
Even something like a credit card number, to save
having to type it out.
With an exploitation of Java script, a hacker could
grab the information from your clipboard and you
would never know it.
To demonstrate this, copy anything to your
clipboard, part of this message for instance.
Then go to

and you quite likely will see the contents of your
clipboard right on the page.
If you're running Firefox, you will not see the
clipboard contents because of that browser's minimal
java support.
This site is harmless and is just a demonstration to
illustrate that clipboard contents may not be 100%
private and to use this Windows feature with
at least when using the Internet.
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