[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: people's reactions and stpid questions

  • From: Elizabeth and Burton <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:48:55 -0500

I have the same experience so I too do not use signs. They just pet the dog and then read the sign. Why burden puppy with a sign? He has enough to do.


E.
At 04:30 PM 12/3/2006, you wrote:
Not everyone uses a sign on their dog's harness. I don't. Wherever I've
been, they've never done much good. I found myself asking people not to pet
my dog, anyway, so I figured if I was going to have to do that, anyway, why
bother with a sign? <smile> I do know a lot of people have had good luck
with them, but I know a lot of people like me who haven't, so I guess it
depends on who you have to deal with on a daily basis. I don't even bother
anymore with a sign and don't even own one anymore. Take care.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 9:27 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: people's reactions and stpid questions



I have never owned a guide dog.  I am a cane user.  So, although I have been
around guide dogs and know they are not supposed to be petted when working,
I didn't realize there is a sign that says not to pet them.  It seems people
do not always pay attention to signs.

Sue S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 4:07 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: people's reactions and stpid questions


Yes, that's just downright deliberately mean. It's too
bad your dogs aren't allowed to be trained to snap at
growl at unwanted pesterers.

Cindy

--- Elizabeth and Burton <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Or the ones who follow you for a block or two saying
> things as they walk
> behind you like "I don't believe you are blind.  If
> you were blind you
> would not be able to get around like that. (this
> while I am going along
> with my dog) Aren't there homes for you so you
> aren't on the street scaring
> the rest of us?" (apparently by walking down the
> street) At this point, I
> usually shout for help or get a copy to help
> unattach this hanger on
> particularly if the hanger on seems about to stay
> for another block or two
> or is waxing beligerent or seems drunk or otherwise
> impaired.
>
> E.
> At 11:38 PM 12/2/2006, you wrote:
> >True, but when you are tired, concentrating on
> homework and just wanting to
> >relax, concentrating on the road ahead in case the
> bus driver happens to
> >forget you are there, they can get to be extremely
> annoying questions.
> >
> >Smile.
> >
> >Actually today in Walmart I had a very young and
> unsupervised tgirl come up
> >and start to harrass Judson and I.  What bugged me
> is that Judson was trying
> >to do his job at the time, but she wouldn't leave
> us alone.  Smile.
> >
> >
> >Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
> >and Judson, guiding golden
> >juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> >Graduate Alumni Association Board
> >www.guidedogs.com
> >
> >Dog ownership is like a rainbow.
> >  Puppies are the joy at one end.
> >  Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
> >Carolyn Alexander
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 3:33 PM
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: people's
> reactions and stpid questions
> >
> >
> >Those are questions anyone with a dog might be
> asked,
> >Shelley, at least what is your dog's name, what
> breed
> >is it, and, can I pet him/her--especially children.
> >Whebn my adult children join us at an outside table
> >where we have a sandwich, with their baby and their
> >dog, people--adults-- stop and ask about one or the
> >other, depending on whether they're "dog" people or
> >"baby" people--rarely both, now that I come to
> think
> >of it. Children, and even adults, will ask if it's
> >o.k. to pet the dog.
> >
> >Cindy
> >
> >
> >--- "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >wrote:
> >
> > > I always wanted to but haven't done it yet.
> > >
> > > When I get on the buses in Kalamazoo, I would
> always
> > > get.
> > >
> > > What is your dog's name?  How long have you had
> him?
> > >  Is he trained?  What
> > > breed is it?
> > >
> > > These are usually questions posed by bratty
> > > ttenagers not people who
> > > sincerely want to know.
> > >
> > > I want to turn around and says.
> > >
> > > And How old are you?  What breed are you?  Have
> you
> > > been trained? (as it
> > > doesn't appear to be so to me),
> > >
> > > Smile, but haven't done it, don't have the guts
> too.
> > >
> > > Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
> > > and Judson, guiding golden
> > > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> > > Graduate Alumni Association Board
> > > www.guidedogs.com
> > >
> > > Dog ownership is like a rainbow.
> > >  Puppies are the joy at one end.
> > >  Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
> > > Carolyn Alexander
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 2:45 AM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: people's reactions
> and
> > > stpid questions
> > >
> > >
> > > I suspect the same insensitive people ask
> similar
> > > question of people with other disabilities, too.
> I
> > > think I would be tempted to reply by asking them
> the
> > > same question, e.g., re the living alone--"Do
> you?"
> > > As
> > > to  your first example--it's hardd tp imagine
> people
> > > being that crass.
> > >
> > > The situation that has always puzzled me is
> whether
> > > or
> > > not to help people in wheelchairs by opening
> doors
> > > for
> > > them. I want to be helpful but I don't want them
> to
> > > feel that I think they can't be independent. I
> > > usually
> > > wait to see whether it appears that they need
> help,
> > > i.e., if they have to turn the sheelchair to
> back
> > > out,
> > > or have to reach forward, I open the door--or is
> > > someone else is pushing the chair. I try to let
> > > people
> > > be as independent as possible, but I don't want
> them
> > > to think I'm being uncaring, either--nor do I
> want
> > > people to think I pity them, because I don't. I
> > > admire
> > > people who don't let any kind of disability get
> in
> > > their way of living life. I'm not so sure I
> could do
> > > as well.
> > >
> > > Cindy
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Elizabeth and Burton <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually that bothers me too.  I am also
> bothered
> > > by
> > > > strangers walking up
> > > > to me and saying "I have never watched a blind
> > > > person ((fill in the blank
> > > > such as eat a salad or do some task.)  I am
> happy
> > > to
> > > > talk about myself but
> > > > this is different than having no boundaries
> where
> > > my
> > > > being blind means I am
> > > > on display for the interest of others or need
> to
> > > > interrupt what I am doing
> > > > to discuss my life with you.
> > > >
> > > > I am also amazed at the fact that total
> strangers
> > > > have come up to me and
> > > > asked me things about my personal life.  It
> would
> > > > never occur to me to walk
> > > > up to someone and say "Do you live alone?" "Do
> you
> > > > have children?" and
> > > > such.  I mean if I am having a conversation
> with
> > > you
> > > > you might ask me that
> > > > if you knew me a bit but total strangers
> somehow
> > > > figure they have the right
> > > > to ask personal things because we are visibly
> > > > disabled.
> > > >
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