I have never owned a guide dog. I am a cane user. So, although I have been around guide dogs and know they are not supposed to be petted when working, I didn't realize there is a sign that says not to pet them. It seems people do not always pay attention to signs. Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 4:07 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: people's reactions and stpid questions Yes, that's just downright deliberately mean. It's too bad your dogs aren't allowed to be trained to snap at growl at unwanted pesterers. Cindy --- Elizabeth and Burton <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Or the ones who follow you for a block or two saying > things as they walk > behind you like "I don't believe you are blind. If > you were blind you > would not be able to get around like that. (this > while I am going along > with my dog) Aren't there homes for you so you > aren't on the street scaring > the rest of us?" (apparently by walking down the > street) At this point, I > usually shout for help or get a copy to help > unattach this hanger on > particularly if the hanger on seems about to stay > for another block or two > or is waxing beligerent or seems drunk or otherwise > impaired. > > E. > At 11:38 PM 12/2/2006, you wrote: > >True, but when you are tired, concentrating on > homework and just wanting to > >relax, concentrating on the road ahead in case the > bus driver happens to > >forget you are there, they can get to be extremely > annoying questions. > > > >Smile. > > > >Actually today in Walmart I had a very young and > unsupervised tgirl come up > >and start to harrass Judson and I. What bugged me > is that Judson was trying > >to do his job at the time, but she wouldn't leave > us alone. Smile. > > > > > >Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI > >and Judson, guiding golden > >juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > >Graduate Alumni Association Board > >www.guidedogs.com > > > >Dog ownership is like a rainbow. > > Puppies are the joy at one end. > > Old dogs are the treasure at the other. > >Carolyn Alexander > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 3:33 PM > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: people's > reactions and stpid questions > > > > > >Those are questions anyone with a dog might be > asked, > >Shelley, at least what is your dog's name, what > breed > >is it, and, can I pet him/her--especially children. > >Whebn my adult children join us at an outside table > >where we have a sandwich, with their baby and their > >dog, people--adults-- stop and ask about one or the > >other, depending on whether they're "dog" people or > >"baby" people--rarely both, now that I come to > think > >of it. Children, and even adults, will ask if it's > >o.k. to pet the dog. > > > >Cindy > > > > > >--- "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >wrote: > > > > > I always wanted to but haven't done it yet. > > > > > > When I get on the buses in Kalamazoo, I would > always > > > get. > > > > > > What is your dog's name? How long have you had > him? > > > Is he trained? What > > > breed is it? > > > > > > These are usually questions posed by bratty > > > ttenagers not people who > > > sincerely want to know. > > > > > > I want to turn around and says. > > > > > > And How old are you? What breed are you? Have > you > > > been trained? (as it > > > doesn't appear to be so to me), > > > > > > Smile, but haven't done it, don't have the guts > too. > > > > > > Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI > > > and Judson, guiding golden > > > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > > > Graduate Alumni Association Board > > > www.guidedogs.com > > > > > > Dog ownership is like a rainbow. > > > Puppies are the joy at one end. > > > Old dogs are the treasure at the other. > > > Carolyn Alexander > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 2:45 AM > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: people's reactions > and > > > stpid questions > > > > > > > > > I suspect the same insensitive people ask > similar > > > question of people with other disabilities, too. > I > > > think I would be tempted to reply by asking them > the > > > same question, e.g., re the living alone--"Do > you?" > > > As > > > to your first example--it's hardd tp imagine > people > > > being that crass. > > > > > > The situation that has always puzzled me is > whether > > > or > > > not to help people in wheelchairs by opening > doors > > > for > > > them. I want to be helpful but I don't want them > to > > > feel that I think they can't be independent. I > > > usually > > > wait to see whether it appears that they need > help, > > > i.e., if they have to turn the sheelchair to > back > > > out, > > > or have to reach forward, I open the door--or is > > > someone else is pushing the chair. I try to let > > > people > > > be as independent as possible, but I don't want > them > > > to think I'm being uncaring, either--nor do I > want > > > people to think I pity them, because I don't. I > > > admire > > > people who don't let any kind of disability get > in > > > their way of living life. I'm not so sure I > could do > > > as well. > > > > > > Cindy > > > > > > > > > --- Elizabeth and Burton <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Actually that bothers me too. 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