some key words here are observe, feel, and ponder. I had a small bit of vision when I was younger, a pinpoint was what the doctors called it. I was, and am totally blind, but I could see shadows, primary colors, *shades of blue, for example I couldn't tell, but blue versus green I could* I also had light perception, which meant I could see light, and I could tell you if it was a table lamp, or floor lamp, or ceiling fixture, and whether it was the long fluorescent lights or just incandescent bulbs. I've totally lost that ability now, and it frustrates me to no end sometimes, since sighted people quite often forget to turn the light off after they leave one of my rooms. Then the neighbors make comments like, "Did you know the porch light has been on for three days now?" No, I didn't, or I'd have turned it off. all the light probes I've seen, I can't hear, since I also have a high frequency hearing loss. That's something I've never understood. Why they thought that if you made something for the use of blind people, it had to be high frequency! -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cindy Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 1:51 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: infant cataract surgery Dear Lissi, Your letter posted here has prompted me to pass on information that I wrote to Kasondra offlist. My elder daughter is a pediatrician. After reading Kasondra's post, I asked her if she had any blind patients. She said no, but she had two babies who were born with congenital cataracts. the first had an operation removing them, and the second, a four-month-old, will have one soon. When I asked if a two-yar-old could have the operation, she said that it was possible but that it wouldn't help much--he would, as happened with you at the age of three and a half, have some slight vision, but his cortical pathways would be so developed by the age of two that he wouldn't have full vision. Your reaction to having some vision to be able to see colors, animals, etc. is interesting, and may help others to decide whether it's worth having their child go through the operation or not. Do you know why you had to have 7 operations? The definite impression I got from Dori is that if the oepration is performed in infancy only the one would be necessary. Since no older patient of hers has had the operation, I'm guessing she doesn't know if one is enough or if more would be necessary. I pass on this information so anyone with the condition who is worried about having children born with congenital cataracts will know that the child doesn't have to remain blind or partially sighted. Cindy nd Everyone Along This Strand, > > Shelley, re the average age for learning braille, I > agree with you that > it's equivalent to the age children learn to read > print, taking their > individual rate of development yadah yadah in to > account. > > For the record, my brother and I had bilateral, > congenital cataracts as did > our mother. Our father had no vision problems. With > our risk factor of > passing cataracts to our children, both of us opted > not to have kids, a > decision I now regret. You said it all, Shelly. It's > a lot to think about. > > With my achievements and failures and my past and > current struggles, I'm > glad my parents took the risk to have me even after > my brother was born > first, with very little vision. I came along totally > blind until 7 surgeries > gave me a little vision in one eye when I was three > and a half. I have had, > and still have rough times, but there's all of the > beauty, the people, the > music, books, animals, colors, variety, endless > things to observe, feel, > and ponder...I'm grateful to have been born. > > Always With Love, > > Lissi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:03 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: heavy books > > > > kids that learn Braille usually start at the same > time that other kiddos > > are > > learning Print. Because, they are learning to > read just as the other > > kiddos > > are. > > > > Smile. > > > > Indeed some disorders can be hereditary. Mine is. > I have Retinitis > > Pigmentosa, and we don't know which form it is. > The only major concern > > for > > the family right now, is to watch my brothers and > make sure they get > > regular > > eye check ups, and of course if I get married and > plan to have kiddos of > > my > > own, I need to be tested and so will my husband to > see if he is a carrier > > of > > the genetic traits for RP. If he does, then we > might have up to a 75 > > percent chance of having a child with RP, and will > have an almost 100% > > chance of a kid who is a "carrier". > > > > It is pretty likely that both my brothers are > carriers of the trait too. > > But so far they don't appear to have it. > > > > Course RP usually shows up in your forties, so > perhaps. > > > > If it is recessive, then it could have easily > passed to them too. > > > > Things to think about. > > > > > > > > Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden > > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > > Graduate Advisory Council > > www.guidedogs.com > > > > The vision must be followed by the venture. It is > not enough to > > stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. > > > > -- Vance Havner > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gail The U. S. Male" <gail1959@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:35 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: heavy books > > > > > > Cindy, indeed, some forms of blindness are > hereditary. Most totally blind > > kids start learning Braille in either Kindergarten > or first grade. The > > child > > could be taught at a younger age, I suppose, but > most kids aren't. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Cindy > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 6:16 PM > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: heavy books > > > > > > That's a cute story, Kasondra. How old does a > child > > have to be before he can start learning to read in > > Braille? Are you and/or your husband bind? Are > some > > forms of blindness hereditary? Forgive me if I'm > being > > too personal. > > > > Cindy > > > > --- Kasondra Payne <Kassyp36@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Cindy, > >> > >> I just walked in my bedroom to answer the phone, > and > >> I found my two-year-old > >> son, Andrew on the floor, trying to read a Harry > >> Potter book. 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