[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:09:33 -0800 (PST)

Knowing how to use knives is one thing you have in
common, to start with. cuckle

Cindy 

--- Lora <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> LOL.  And what are your qualifications?  <Smirking
> right back at ya*
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Robert Riddle
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:11 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful
> People
> 
> Hey Lora, I ain't married, smirk. Heh just kidding.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:06 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful
> People
> 
> 
> > Yes, if he'd asked, I would have told him, and
> under different 
> > circumstances, might even have chosen to hold
> hands.  It's not nearly 
> > as effective, but on the other hand, we were only
> going a short distance.
> >
> > Communication is at the center of it all.  And I
> suppose I'm not 
> > surprised that many people don't try to
> communicate;  I don't think 
> > it's something Americans are really good at.
> >
> > Be that as it may, talk to me, folks, before you
> grab me, and we'll do
> just
> > fine. ;)
> >
> > Like Donna, I'll happily educate, and tell you
> what would be helpful.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Elizabeth 
> > and Burton
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:39 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful
> People
> >
> > Under different circumstances I do a variety of
> things.  That is the 
> > courtesous good part about asking.  It gives the
> disabled person a 
> > chance
> to
> > do what works at the moment.
> >
> > E.
> > At 02:27 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> > >No, same subject, different aspect. I think at
> CSUN a couple of years 
> > >ago I had to ask, or be told, how to guide Donna
> to the restaurant. I 
> > >didn't know whether she should take my arm or I
> should take hers. She 
> > >took charge and told me. I wouldn't think of
> taking a person's hand, 
> > >though, just because I don't think it's very
> effective.
> > >
> > >Cindy
> > >
> > >--- Lora <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What you say is true.  Regrettably, we live in
> a
> > > > dangerous world.   If I'd
> > > > been more uneasy, I might have shoved him
> away, which could be 
> > > > dangerous for him in the middle of an
> intersection.
> > > >
> > > > I also think you're right about more physical
> contact.  A new 
> > > > acquaintance, when offering to guide me in a
> restaurant (a 
> > > > courtesy I will accept, because the
> restaurants I tend to go to 
> > > > seem to have lots of cramped spaces and such),
> slipped my hand in his
> to guide.
> > > > I pulled my hand back and took his arm.  I
> wouldn't have minded 
> > > > flirting with him, but he's married, and so
> even holding hands 
> > > > seems off limits to me.  Maybe that's an
> entirely different 
> > > > subject, though.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of 
> > > > Elizabeth and Burton
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM
> > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly
> Helpful People
> > > >
> > > > Reality is grabbing someone, particularly a
> woman without asking 
> > > > first is a stressful and possibly dangerous
> experience for the 
> > > > person being grabbed.  I understand the need
> to help.  I will 
> > > > stress in the book what we all know and have
> been trying to stress 
> > > > and will use humor to do it.  The human being
> is equipped with a 
> > > > mouth and the ability to use it.
> > > > Please let's learn the
> > > > following phrases.  Repeat after me children:
> > > > "May I pet your dog."
> > > > "Do you need help."
> > > > alternatives to "Do you need help" include
> "Are you all right?"
> > > >
> > > > The implicit thing often thought is "I am
> worried about you.  Do 
> > > > you need help?" (can I stop worrying) and the
> other question is "I 
> > > > have nobody to help and here is a person I can
> help."  I do not 
> > > > like this attitude much since I dislike being
> an object attracting 
> > > > folks who feel so non-needed and attracting
> them for their needs 
> > > > not my help By the way, you can tell that
> kind.  Those are the 
> > > > ones who keep insisting and hang on after you
> have said you do not
> need help.
> > > >
> > > > On a more ominous note, I think there are men
> who physically grab 
> > > > blind women for the same reason they would
> like to grab or touch a 
> > > > woman or any kind.  You can tell this kind
> because he is the one 
> > > > who tries to cop a feel of my tit while I am
> hholding his arm to 
> > > > cross a street.
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line, I thin, is that anyone needs to
> be at least a bit 
> > > > concerned about somebody grabbing them
> particularly in situations 
> > > > where he might be trying to pick your pocket
> or such.  The fact is 
> > > > many of that kind are put off some by dogs.
> > > >
> > > > I also think women who are blind get
> physically contacted more 
> > > > than do blind men.  Somebody from AFB wrote a
> NY Times article 
> > > > about it a few years ago.
> > > > I will do my best to get ahold of it.  I want
> AFB in on the book 
> > > > project in some way, by the way.
> > > >
> > > > This thing really might take off.
> > > >
> > > > E.
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