My best friend from College and I met one day, while being stuck on Bleachers, and I was trying to deal with Yellow Jackets attacking Judson. Some idiot had spilled ice tea on the Bleachers. I asked if she knew where Lehigh Hall was, and found out she lived there too, smile, so.... she helped me back to the dorm, and we were friends ever since. found out she loved animals like I do, crafts and special Education and well the rest is history, smile. Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Alumni Association Board www.guidedogs.com Dog ownership is like a rainbow. Puppies are the joy at one end. Old dogs are the treasure at the other. Carolyn Alexander ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth and Burton" <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:34 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People Totally. I have met and become friends with folks in that way. My hiking partner and friend and I met in Grand Central. I was asking if anyone knew where a phone booth was in the days before prevalence of cell phones. There were lots of folks around. My friend said they just looked at me but nobody helped. He came over and shoed me where the phone was. It turned out we were taking the same train and discovered we both liked hiking and lived near each other. We have been great friends for years. Burton gets so excited when he sees the truck because he knows we are going on our weekly six month hike. I want to stress humorously in the book that it is the way a person goes about something that counts. First ask. And try asking when the blind person can respond. Interrupting me in the middle of an obvious conversation just plain is rude. Blind people deserve to be treated with courtesy. If you wouldn't do it to a sighted person you ought not to do it to us. I am where I am because I want or need to be. I am not on the street or bus or in the school or on the job to give you a way to feel good or noble about helping, or even to give the lonely somebody to talk to. I can choose to take this on if I want to. I have the right to my privacy. I have the right to be having the kind of day when I would rather sit quietly on a bus reading and not tell some stranger about what it is like to be me. I have a right to be as social or not. My mother was always kind courteous (and so to me) glamorous person. I know I have written absurd answers to some questions. I know lots of sighted folks perceive us as angry. Reality is, you'd be pissed if somebody grabbed your arm while you were holding the steering wheel (dog harness?) and yelled "here let me help you?" (grin) Oh dear I guess all that goes in the book too. E. At 12:16 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote: >Hi, > >If someone were to just ask, Do you need some help, I'd be appreciative. >Sometimes, I'm in a new area, and being able to verify the name of a >street, >or the identity of a building nearby, can be invaluable. If he'd asked, I >would have politely declined, and that would have been that. > >-----Original Message----- >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Grandma Cindy >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:12 PM >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People > >I think he should have waited to see if you needed help and if he thought >you did, he should have asked first and not grabbed you. At least that's >what I would have done--and do if I see a person in a wheelchair or a >person >with a white cane--which, for some reason, I rarely see. On the rare >occasions on which I've seen a blind person with a white cane coming toward >me, I just step out of the way. > >As I said, these days I rarely see any blind people--but when I do it's all >I can do to keep from asking if they're anyone I might know from bookshare, >knowing that some of you live in the L.A. and San Diego areas. One such >person had called and was supposed to come into the library on a day I was >working, but he didn't come before I had to leave. I probably wouldn't have >said anything to him anyway, respecting his provacy, though I would have >asked the librarian his name. > >Bud, Do you ever come into Brentwood? > >Cindy > >Cindy > >Cindy > >--- Lora <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Coming home today, I had to cross two streets in front of my house. > > Neither is large (two lanes a piece), though one can be a little > > tricky to read at times. > > > > Nonetheless, I was certain of my crossing and started across the > > street. > > Suddenly, this guy appears out of nowhere and grabs my hand. I > > snatched my hand back, and then he says, "I just want to help you." I > > said, "I'm fine, I'm fine." > > > > For me, there's always a tiny pang at that point. > > Questions run through my > > head like: "Did I screw up this crossing somehow, go against the > > light, anything?" > > > > I tucked my hand in my pocket (the other hand being busy with my cane) > > and crossed the street. > > > > I felt slightly bad afterward. I'm sure the gentleman meant no harm, > > but he startled me. I have always lived in big cities, and use a > > large dose of caution when traveling. Mostly, though, I didn't feel > > afraid, just so unprepared for someone to appear from nowhere and grab > > me. > > > > I turned and crossed the other street, and he started to cross with > > me, but must have decided I'd make it without him, because he turned > > and went on his way. > > > > I'm not sure what I should have done, but that's probably the same > > reaction the next person would get under similar circumstances. > > > > Lora > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a > > list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the > > subject line. > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________ >________ >Need a quick answer? 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