[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People

  • From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 06:16:13 -0700

Now that's just beautiful.  I don't think I'd have the courage to do that,
but I'd want to.
 

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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People

Oh, I do that. I was in a restaurant once, and the waitress hollered at me "
what would you like, sir!" and I hollered right back "To take you to bed,
ma'am!" as loud as I could. She never hollered at me again, nor did any
other servers at that particular restaurant. <smirk.>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:10 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People


> Hmmm, maybe this one should go under this subject.  Although, maybe it 
> should be under people who do not think.
>
> Back in the 80s I went on a business trip.  I took a flight to New 
> York state.
>
> When I got to my seat I found that I had 2 other travelers sitting in 
> the same row with me.  That was fine since I enjoy talking with people 
> and meeting new people.  We hit it off pretty well too.  After a very 
> few questions about my Guide Dog and how we travel things moved to 
> much more normal topics.
>
> After a while the flight attendants began the process of distributing
drinks
> and nuts or something of that sort.  Of course I could hear them 
> slowly moving their way along the isle.  I wasn't planning on 
> partaking and was planning to politely let them know that when they asked.
>
> When the flight atendant got to our row she placed 1 hand on the back 
> of
my
> seat and 1 on the back of the seat in front of me.  It didn't bother 
> me
but
> I had to wonder what that would be like for a sighted guy.  She asked 
> the
2
> people between me and the window waht they would like.
>
> Once she had gotten their refreshments she stepped back.  She leaned 
> down very close to my face and literally yelled, "would you like 
> anything to eat?".
>
> I just quietly said no thanks.
>
> After she moved on down the isle the 2 folks next to me expressed
amazement
> and near anger that she would do such a thing.  One of them started 
> snickering and said, "you are just blind not deaf too right?".
>
> I have to admit at this point that I seriously considered screaming 
> back, "no thanks.".  But I didn't.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:37 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People
>
>
> > What you say is true.  Regrettably, we live in a dangerous world.   If
I'd
> > been more uneasy, I might have shoved him away, which could be 
> > dangerous for him in the middle of an intersection.
> >
> > I also think you're right about more physical contact.  A new 
> > acquaintance, when offering to guide me in a restaurant (a courtesy 
> > I will accept, because the restaurants I tend to go to seem to have 
> > lots of cramped spaces and such), slipped my hand in his to guide.  
> > I pulled my hand back and took his arm.  I wouldn't have minded 
> > flirting with him, but he's married, and so even holding hands seems 
> > off limits to me.  Maybe that's an entirely different subject, 
> > though.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
> > and Burton
> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People
> >
> > Reality is grabbing someone, particularly a woman without asking 
> > first
is
> > a
> > stressful and possibly dangerous experience for the person being
grabbed.
> > I
> > understand the need to help.  I will stress in the book what we all 
> > know and have been trying to stress and will use humor to do it.  
> > The human being is equipped with a mouth and the ability to use it.  
> > Please let's learn the following phrases.  Repeat after me children:
> > "May I pet your dog."
> > "Do you need help."
> > alternatives to "Do you need help" include "Are you all right?"
> >
> > The implicit thing often thought is "I am worried about you.  Do you
need
> > help?" (can I stop worrying) and the other question is "I have 
> > nobody to help and here is a person I can help."  I do not like this 
> > attitude much since I dislike being an object attracting folks who 
> > feel so non-needed and attracting them for their needs not my help 
> > By the way, you can tell
that
> > kind.  Those are the ones who keep insisting and hang on after you 
> > have said you do not need help.
> >
> > On a more ominous note, I think there are men who physically grab 
> > blind women for the same reason they would like to grab or touch a 
> > woman or
any
> > kind.  You can tell this kind because he is the one who tries to cop 
> > a feel of my tit while I am hholding his arm to cross a street.
> >
> > Bottom line, I thin, is that anyone needs to be at least a bit 
> > concerned about somebody grabbing them particularly in situations 
> > where he might
be
> > trying to pick your pocket or such.  The fact is many of that kind 
> > are
put
> > off some by dogs.
> >
> > I also think women who are blind get physically contacted more than 
> > do blind men.  Somebody from AFB wrote a NY Times article about it a 
> > few years
ago.
> > I will do my best to get ahold of it.  I want AFB in on the book 
> > project in some way, by the way.
> >
> > This thing really might take off.
> >
> > E.
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