[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People
- From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 05:26:14 -0700
That's a fine idea. I probably won't do it until after the holidays, as
life is pretty busy, but after the new year, this sounds like a good plan.
And aikido is a wonderful form of martial arts, because it addresses the
whole you, both your physical responses and that level of confidence you
spoke of. My then seven-year-old daughter was able to throw a full-sized
male adult with little effort.
I don't even need something that intense, as you say, just a few strategies
to help me avoid troublesome situations.
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You may want to go to an akaido school in Denver and ask a student or
instructor for moves. Someone can, for example, grab your hand or wrist or
do the kinds of common things you and I run across on the street and then
show you how to get out of it.
Akaido is fun but what I am speaking of is far less than a full blown class.
Classes will help the way you move on the street, balance and of course self
defense. The joke about well trained akaido folks is that the energy they
give off and the confident way they move means they get messed with less.
E.
At 12:44 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
>I did take a women's self-defense class while living in San Francisco
>years ago, but I don't remember a thing. I've thought about pursuing
>aikido, and had even found an instructor willing to teach me, but then
>I moved to Denver. I haven't pursued that particular interest since.
>
>I'd love to know if you find any good descriptions.
>
>
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>There are a few self defense moves which do not come across as "shoving
>him away". He would never notice anything except that somehow he was no
>longer connected to your arm or hand. I learned them in akaido.
>
>I cannot describe them verbally enough for it to come across correctly.
>I will find out if descriptions exist in self-defense journals or
>something if I can.
>
>E.
>At 12:37 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
> >What you say is true. Regrettably, we live in a dangerous world. If
I'd
> >been more uneasy, I might have shoved him away, which could be
> >dangerous for him in the middle of an intersection.
> >
> >I also think you're right about more physical contact. A new
> >acquaintance, when offering to guide me in a restaurant (a courtesy I
> >will accept, because the restaurants I tend to go to seem to have
> >lots of cramped spaces and such), slipped my hand in his to guide. I
> >pulled my hand back and took his arm. I wouldn't have minded
> >flirting with him, but he's married, and so even holding hands seems
> >off limits to me. Maybe that's an entirely different subject, though.
> >
> >
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> >and Burton
> >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM
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> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Overly Helpful People
> >
> >Reality is grabbing someone, particularly a woman without asking
> >first is a stressful and possibly dangerous experience for the person
> >being grabbed. I understand the need to help. I will stress in the
> >book what we all know and have been trying to stress and will use
> >humor to do it. The human being is equipped with a mouth and the
> >ability to use it. Please let's learn the following phrases. Repeat
after me children:
> >"May I pet your dog."
> >"Do you need help."
> >alternatives to "Do you need help" include "Are you all right?"
> >
> >The implicit thing often thought is "I am worried about you. Do you
> >need help?" (can I stop worrying) and the other question is "I have
> >nobody to help and here is a person I can help." I do not like this
> >attitude much since I dislike being an object attracting folks who
> >feel so non-needed and attracting them for their needs not my help By
> >the way, you can tell that kind. Those are the ones who keep
> >insisting and hang on after you have said you do not need help.
> >
> >On a more ominous note, I think there are men who physically grab
> >blind women for the same reason they would like to grab or touch a
> >woman or any kind. You can tell this kind because he is the one who
> >tries to cop a feel of my tit while I am hholding his arm to cross a
street.
> >
> >Bottom line, I thin, is that anyone needs to be at least a bit
> >concerned about somebody grabbing them particularly in situations
> >where he might be trying to pick your pocket or such. The fact is
> >many of that kind are put off some by dogs.
> >
> >I also think women who are blind get physically contacted more than
> >do blind men. Somebody from AFB wrote a NY Times article about it a
> >few years
>ago.
> >I will do my best to get ahold of it. I want AFB in on the book
> >project in some way, by the way.
> >
> >This thing really might take off.
> >
> >E.
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