[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Old-time typing papers

  • From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:19:28 -0600

Wow, punch cards, haven't thought of those for a while.

I used to teach a class in programming in the early eighties. I insisted that my students learn to keypunch. My philosophy was that we will always use punch cards. So much for my predictive abilities.

Do you remember a machine called a validator? (I'm pretty sure that was what it was called.) You would run a batch of cards through it and repunch the data. If you were right the card would advance to the next collumn. If not, the machine would lock up and you had to reset it. If you made three mistakes on the same column, the machine would cut a chunk out above the column. My programs used to look like they had been through a mangler.

Bob
----- Original Message ----- From: "Misha" <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I'm not blind so I never turned in an illegible paper because I couldn't tell the ribbon wasn't working, but all this reminds me of when I first learned computer programming. Back then we used a machine like a typewriter that punched holes in cards about 6 inches by 2 inches long. It was also supposed to type the information at the top of the card as well as punching holes. But the school didn't like to pay for all the ribbons for the typed part and changing them in these machines was a difficult process anyway. So, all you could do was type along, and then send it off to the computer and it would print out your program and any errors it found. Then when the program didn't work you compared what you intended to type with what the computer printed, then found the card with the typo, re-punched it and tried again.

But there is more to the story. The year before, a graduate student had written a program that would evaluate our programs from the class and print out the next assignment based on what kind of errors we made. Well, without the printing at the top os the cards, I made so many typos that by about the fourth assignment. the evaluation program was trying to get me to type more carefully by putting letters that look similar into the names I was supposed to use for the mathematical symbold in the program. So, they would be things like s5l1o0. Now for someone listening to that or reading in braille, you won't know the problems it gave me.

Misha

siss52 wrote:
Hi Cindy

We typed on the same kind of typewriter you would use in those days. And no, there would not have been a "braille typewriter". I never heard of a Braille typewriter. <smile>

Sue S.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:18 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Old-time typing papers


Oh, my. What happened? Did the teacher or professor
laugh?

I gather that in those days you had to type on a
regular typewriter and there was no Braille typewriter
or you didn't have someone to type for you?

G.Cindy



--- Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Exactly. I once turned in a four page essay that was
illegible because there
was no ribbon in my typewriter.

Yuck. The pages felt fine (with all the dots
(periods) in the right places.
Just no ink.
----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:43 PM
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home and validate books



Hi Bob,

I remember it, and also remember how much more

difficult it was to correct

errors on a manual typewriter.  If you really

goofed, you had to start

over.
<smiling>

Sue S.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:11 AM
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home and validate books

If anyone besides me can remember this, you'll

identify with it.

There's nothing more painful than typing on a

clunky manual typewriter on

a
cold winter's day.

Bob
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:29 AM
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home and validate books


I do the same and have decided that computer

keyboards are simply not like

electric typewriters in that they have a tendency

to sneak in extra

letters
that our finger grazes over without realizing it.

Jill

----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:41 AM
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stay home and validate

books



I spell fine. I type fast. So I make typos unless

I check things over.

E.

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