[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Learning Braille
- From: "Gail The U. S. Male" <gail1959@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:56:32 -0700
I'm certainly not down on all teachers, by any means. The educational
establishment, yes, I don't have much good to say about that, but there are
wonderful teachers out there, who are worth their weight in gold. I had some
of these growing up, and know others. The students who had
the teacher Lissi mentioned were lucky indeed! Unfortunately I haven't seen
many programs where they actually teach the practicality of budgeting, and
so forth. Tom, I'm sure your former students were lucky to have you as a
teacher.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Estelnalissi
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 12:06 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Learning Braille
Dear Tom,
Lucky they were, the kids you taught! I concur with your thoughts about
teaching.
Though my very favorite subjects were literature, music and history oriented
and I admired most of my teachers, one of the teachers who contributed most
to my practical adjustment and management of my life was my eighth grade
math teacher. Not only was he spot on with algebra, but he taught sound
money management, formulas for determining how to calculate how much to save
every month, the general percentages of income to budget for housing,
utilities, etc, how to rapidly estimate costs of things from restaurant
bills to living room sets before ordering or buying, the nature of retail
pricing from discount, to independent, to second hand to upper scale
department stores, and how to analyze ads and sales to assess their true
value and savings. I've wished so often I could tell him how much I applied
the many lessons he taught to the decision making in my life. I'm sure many
of your former students would like to thank you in a similar way.
Have you noticed how many former teachers don't have a kind word for their
profession or their students. It's because you still recognize there isn't
one answer that will serve all students, that I suspect that you had and
still have compassion for kids and the need to but challenge of giving what
would work best for each one.
Always With Love,
Lissi
----- Original Message -----
From: "tom hawkins" <tjhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 8:27 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Learning Braille
> Hi Gail,
> It's not the teachers. It's the parents that dictate through their school
> boards and in the case of California the state legislature. Parents would
> not accept their darlings failure And the truth of the matter is that
> while one system will work for one it will not work for another, no matter
> the system.!
>
> Tom Hawkins
>
> P. S. I am a retired math teacher and I've taught at all levels from third
> through adult levels.----
>
>
> Original Message -----
> From: "Gail The U. S. Male" <gail1959@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 3:43 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Learning Braille
>
>
>> I'm dating myself, but I learned to read before that stupid whole word
>> reading idea came out. that was the worst piece of garbage perpetrated on
>> the public in a long time. Then they wonder why Johnny can't read! I'm
>> stopping here, since I don't want to write a novel on things I have
>> against
>> the education establishment. They're "dumbing down" our kids, making it
>> perfectly fine to perform at the lowest levels, since we wouldn't want to
>> damage Susie's poor little psyche by letting her take the consequences of
>> her actions and failing, and Poor Susie might feel badly if she didn't do
>> at
>> least as well as the other kids on her tests, so let's lower the level we
>> accept as passing on all tests, so she won't feel bad.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cindy
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 3:36 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Learning braille
>>
>>
>> And to read. I wsa a high school English teacher at
>> one point in my life, and my students were part of
>> that generation that learned to read via whole word
>> recognition. They weren't able to work out new words
>> that they came across. I started spending a class hour
>> a week having them read the literature we were reading
>> aloud and having them work out the words phonically.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it goes back to
>>> teaching whole word
>>> recognition that was so popular for sighted students
>>> years ago until it was
>>> discovered that phonics were extremely important in
>>> being able to spell.
>>> ----- Original Messag
>>
>>
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