They were not really conclusions. They were an attempt to ask the kind of pertinent questions that any consumer should ask before leaping into a purchase or commitment. One of those questions was based on a suspicion, but that was not a conclusion either.
_ _ _"Everything must justify its existence before the judgment seat of Reason, or give up existence." - Friedrich Engels
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Roger, I have to respectfully disagree with your conclusions here. Firstly, most of the books obtainable through Open Library are public doman titles; and the same goes for Gutinberg. Bookshare has a huge selection, there's no denying it. But the 750,000 titles that comprise Amazon's collection are mostly popular fiction/nonfiction, whereas the titles in bookshare's collection cover a wide variety of subjects. Not only that, but a number of them are textbooks.. as far as I'm aware, there are very few textbooks available on Kindle. Both Bookshare and Kindle, to my mind at least, could have valuable roles to play. Older titles (earlier than about the last five years from what I can see) and titles from small presses aren't traditionally available on Kindle, and niether are textbooks, as I said before. So those are two huge gaps bookshare can continue to fill, even if this software proves as phenomenal as it first appears. Kindle will provide numerous popular books, especially books that can't be obtained because of lack of publisher cooperation/partnership, or books that will be added by our safe publishers, but which we wish to read immediately upon release. Currently, I can think of three titles I'll be able to read with this software that aren't currently available on bookshare and those are just off the top of my head. Personally.. I'm over the moon. Courtney On 1/20/11, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:Given the enormous number of books that we can already get from sources like Bookshare or Open Library, is there really anything of significance that wecan purchase from Amazon that we can't get from these other sources? Will this software read books from sources other than Amazon? Would it bepossible to install it on a mobile device such as the Victor Reader Stream? Even if the software is free it sounds to me like it is a way to convince us to spen money on books that we are likely to already have access to by other means and better access too. Do you think that is a legitimate concern andif not then why not? _ _ _"Everything must justify its existence before the judgment seat of Reason,or give up existence." - Friedrich Engels Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/rogerbailey81 The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press: http://www.pathfinderpress.com Granma International: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chela Robles" <cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:11 PMSubject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Fwd: Introducing Free Kindle Software withAccessibility FeaturesThis new version of the Kindle app appears quite accessible with JAWS. Upon launching it, you register with your Amazon e-mail and password. I purchased a Kindle book and was able to read it without difficulty. Thesoftware uses its own TTS speech engine to read books you purchase, whichexplains its over 200 megabyte download. So far the only thing I findannoying is difficulty in utilizing the search function for quickly movingto a phrase in a book, not being able to navigate through the table ofcontents, and only being able to read one page at a time rather than read continuously. Of course, perhaps reading the manual will shed light on howto do this. As a consumer, my only real complaint with the Kindle, and most ebook platforms for that matter, is being limited to a proprietary format, as I would like to read lawfully purchased ebooks on whatever device and whatever medium I choose, be it PC, iPhone, or Braillenotetaker. However, it's encouraging to see that ebooks which incorporatedigital rights management schemes can indeed be accessed with speech. Hopefully other ebook manufacturers such as NFB Technologies and Google are taking notice.But what's up with the help! It took me to the Kindle Store. I wanted moreinformation about reading keys, and couldn't find it. Also, that reading voice really is useful only in a pintch. Any nonstandard English word causes it to stumble. -- "To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be sophisticated, but when you get the two of them together in a way people can relate to, then I think you're on to something. You want the sophistication to lie in the purity of the sound, the beauty of the arrangements, and the quality of the performances."-Trumpeter Chris Botti-- -- Chela Robles AIM/Twitter/MySpace/E-Mail: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx Skype: jazzytrumpet WindowsLive Messenger: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chela.robles Text my Cell at: 19252505955 I volunteer for a non-profit organization called Bookshare, to find out more go to: http://www.bookshare.orgVisit my Blog Piece from RFB&D and fill out the comment form and enjoy theblog and sound clips: http://www.rfbd.org/Blog/Access-and-Achievement/144/vobId__2525/ -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Petrous" <annpetrous@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:20 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Fwd: Introducing Free Kindle Software with Accessibility FeaturesThat's awesome. Now can you download that ap on a kindal? If nso, then Iwould toatally buy one. Lol -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:52 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Fwd: Introducing Free Kindle Software withAccessibility Features Hi everyone! I am excited to try this app. It will avail many of us another source for books. DebbySubject: Fwd: Introducing Free Kindle Software with Accessibility Features[] Dear blind-interest@xxxxxxxxxx subscriber, Amazon.com is releasing a new version of Kindle for PC that adds accessibility features designed for blind and low-vision customers. Kindle for PC with Accessibility Plugin is a free, downloadableapplication for your Windows PC. It provides the following accessibilityfeatures: text-to-speech reading with adjustable voice settings, voice-guided menu navigation, large font sizes, high contrast reading mode, keyboard navigation, and accessible shortcuts. With this software, for the first time ever, the entire collection ofEnglish language books in the Kindle Store can be read aloud. With over 750,000 English language titles, Amazon offers the largest selection ofaccessible ebooks. In order to use the text-to-speech feature, an external screen reader program must be installed and running on the Windows PC. The free download is available at <http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?R=2K2H70RHZWU7M&C=1BCY59BXVQFS0&H=CHDG0V1IERAWLK7B8GVBJJVQCIWA&T=C&U=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fkindle%2Faccessibi lity%3Fref_%3Dpe_71480_18358260>www.amazon.com/kindle/accessibility.We welcome your feedback at <mailto:kindle-PC-accessibility-feedback@xxxxxxxxxx>kindle-PC-accessibility-feedback@xxxxxxxxxxxSincerely, The Kindle TeamC 2011 Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Amazon,the Amazon a logo, the AmazonKindle logo, Kindle, and Whispersync are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. 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