Thanks, Allison, for the info.
Yes, I would not like to feel pain in my dreams. I
don't think I feel in my dreams--except occasionally
emotions, which last for a while when I wake up. And
occasionally smells and sounds, but I think they enter
my dreams from the outside.
Cindy
--- Allison Mervis <allisonfm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I dream entirely in sensation and sound. It's like I
don't have to see in my
dreams in order to know where I'm going. I can also
feel pain while
dreaming, and a lot of people I've talked to can't.
Sometimes I wish I
couldn't.
Allison
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Fwd: Fw: Blind
sight
>I dream more in sounds, Cindy. When I was little
and could see more light,
>sometimes I'd see things like flame, but whatever I
saw had to be bright.
>But I've heard people say something to me, and it's
made me wake up. I also
>dream some in sensation.
>
> Some research has been done regarding sleep of
blind people. Some of us
> move our fingers in REM sleep, as you would your
eyes.
>
>
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Fwd: Fw: Blind sight
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>
>> This article relates, subject-wise, to one that I
>> forwarded a while back--vision being given to a
man
>> who was blind fo forty years, having lost his
sight at
>> age three.
>>
>> The article mentions dreams. I've wondered, but
have
>> refrained from asking, what the dreams of blind
people
>> are like. Does the brain create pictures and
shapes
>> from the various sensations you have during the
day? I
>> hope you don't mind my asking.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> --- Louise <bookscanner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> From: "Louise" <bookscanner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "Louise Gourdoux"
<bookscanner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Fw: Blind sight
>>> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:05:00 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Guardian (UK)
>>> Wednesday, May 17, 2006
>>>
>>> Blind sight
>>>
>>> By Sue Blackmore
>>>
>>> Restoring vision to the blind sounds like a
miracle
>>> - but for the patients
>>> in question, it can seem like a nightmare.
>>>
>>> What is it like for the blind to see again? You
>>> might think it would be a
>>> delight, with the previously handicapped person
>>> opening their eyes to a
>>> wondrous world of colour, depth, movement and
faces,
>>> and a new and better
>>> life. But that (if you are a normal seeing
person)
>>> is probably because you
>>> think of vision as an easy task for the brain -
>>> after all, it seems so easy.
>>>
>>> This is far from the truth. In fact, vision
takes
>>> vast brain power and a lot
>>> of it is learned, so the newly-sighted have a
tough
>>> job on. And the few
>>> previously documented cases are mostly sad
stories
>>> of fear, depression, and
>>> even suicide.
>>>
>>> This week I was lucky enough to be invited,
along
>>> with a small group of
>>> vision scientists, to meet a blind man made to
see -
>>> this time by the
>>> wonders of corneal stem cell transplantation.
Mike
>>> May, a Californian who
>>> became blind at the age of three, had his sight
>>> restored in one eye over
>>> forty years later. One of the organisers was
Richard
>>> Gregory, who did
>>> classic research in the 1960s with patient, SB.
>>>
>>> Our questions ranged from dreams and imagination
to
>>> how to cope with traffic
>>> and sports, but among the most fascinating
things we
>>> learned was how
>>> overwhelming the visual world is for someone who
is
>>> not used to it, and how
>>> much sighted people take for granted their
ability
>>> to ignore it. For Mike,
>>> looking out of his high up hotel window means
seeing
>>> the teeming cars as
>>> full size cars, while knowing that somehow he
ought
>>> to see them as smaller.
>>> He described the difference from his previous
world
>>> in which he knew the
>>> cars were there but was not bombarded with
details
>>> of colour, shape, number,
>>> and direction.
>>>
>>> Amazingly, Mike was an expert skier while blind,
>>> following a guide who
>>> called out instructions. He described to us the
joy
>>> of seeing mountains
>>> (when he could work out that was what he was
seeing)
>>> and the confusion of
>>> skiing with sight. Trees were dark and obviously
to
>>> be avoided, but shadows
>>> were dark too, and hence very scary. It made me
>>> reflect on how valuable is
>>> our ability not to be distracted by shadows.
Indeed
>>> he finds skiing and
>>> crossing the road more frightening with vision
than
>>> he used to do without.
>>>
>>> He talked about synaesthesia too. While many
people
>>> see numbers or sounds as
>>> having their own colour, for Mike it was Braille
>>> letters that were
>>> coloured - and, as he put it "people thought I
was
>>> nuts". Most strange for
>>> him are faces which seem to have so much more
detail
>>> than he had expected
>>> from touching them all his life - but whether he
>>> sees and recognises them in
>>> anything like the way normally sighted people
do, we
>>> could not tell.
>>>
>>> I realised how very difficult it is to ask
>>> meaningful questions and
>>> understand the answers when you are talking to
>>> someone whose experience is
>>> so different from your own - and this is, of
course,
>>> what makes Mike so
>>> special. But should I go further? Perhaps I
should
>>> not be asking what it's
>>> like for the blind to see, but what it's like
for
>>> anyone to see. For
>>> scientists are far from agreement over this, and
I
>>> have agonised about the
>>> nature of conscious vision for years.
>>>
>>> So look around you now. What is it like to see?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/sue_blackmore/2006/05/what_is_it_like_fo
>>> r_the_blind.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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