[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT Duplicating NLS Titles
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:07:30 -0700 (PDT)
There are so many books on audio tape and CD now
available free from libraries, I wonder if that has
anything to do with the NLS recording program possibly
doing less. And they're recorded in many cases by the
authors as well as by actors--not that that's
necessarily a good thing. A couple of times I've heard
authors read from their own works and thought they
were terrible. Others were excellent.
Cindy
--- Barbara <barbarab65@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I hope that NLS will continue because there are many
> people who are not computer literate and have no
> intention of learning computer skills. Without NLS,
> they would not be reading. Specifically, I know
> someone who is losing her vision because of Macular
> Degeneration. When I explained to her how Bookshare
> could change her life, her response was that she
> does not like using the computer and does not like
> listening to books using synthetic speech. She says
> that she does not want to change her life and that
> she is happy listening to NSL books. She was a
> physical therapist and is an educated person who
> hates computer technology. Another person that I
> know who has Dyslexia uses Kurzweil 3000 and hates
> the synthetic speech. She would rather listen to
> books on tape. Therefore, we need both audio and
> electronic books since we are trying to reach a
> diverse audience. Finally, many people have never
> heard of Bookshare and don't have computers.
> However, they have heard of Talking
> Books.
>
> Often, I find that people with disabilities, not
> only those with vision ones, who are highly
> intelligent and adaptable forget that most of the
> public only has average intelligence and does not
> know or have all the technological and adaptive
> resources that we have or know how to get these
> resources. Furthermore, they don't care or don't
> want to adapt. Instead, they would rather not read
> or stay at home and watch TV. Therefore, if we want
> to increase the literacy for people with print
> disabilities, we need to use all available sources
> and encourage them all to grow.
>
> Personally, I love Bookshare but I have to say
> that I would rather listen to classical literature
> read on tape than to hear it synthetically because
> it is more enjoyable for me.
>
> Lori Castner <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Jill,
>
> I was very intrigued by your comments, especially
> that you were a NLS patron from the inception of the
> Talking Book program. If you would like to share
> some memories of that time, please feel free to
> contact me offlist at
>
> loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cat Lover Lori
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jill O'Connell
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:07 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Duplicating NLS
> Titles
>
>
> Please don't misunderstand; I have no problem with
> duplicating books, but I do have a problem with
> opinion stated as fact. As you may know, NLS did not
> go to CDs because they are already becoming
> obsolete; see information about flash cards and the
> Victor Stream as mentioned by Ann Parsons. Many
> changes may be taking place at NLS; let's hope they
> are all to the good. I agree that if this topic is
> to be continued it should be preceded with OT. I am
> older than most of you on this list, have been an
> NLS patron from the inception of the Talking Book
> program and a braille user before then. As a result
> I have seen its development over the years. I was
> also fortunate enough to have served on the
> Collection committee for two years which perhaps has
> afforded me a better picture of its workings than
> most users have had. I have nothing but praise for
> Jim Fruchterman's vision and have every hope that it
> will continue to grow and flourish but could point
> out some misjudgment in the
> way memberships were awarded for bad scanning and
> bad validating. If NLS staff is worried about job
> continuance, I wonder if this isn't largely because
> more and more E books are becoming available, not
> because the program has been mismanaged.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: maithe007
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:19 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Duplicating NLS
> Titles
>
>
> Jill,
>
> I have a friend that works for them and he says
> that their jobs are on the line. I don't know if
> the reasons are because of bad management, less
> people are reading, other technologies are taking
> over, but it is a fact that they are all worried
> about their jobs.
>
> I know that they were planning on transferring
> their books into a CD format...don't know what
> happened to that. Either way, I do think it is a
> good idea to have these books in all available
> forms. I sometimes like to read on my computer and
> at other times, I prefer to listen to a book on
> tape. When I scan, I listen to a book on tape.
> When I clean, I listen to these books on tape. So,
> both technologies will hopefully continue to
> progress.
>
> There is a major problem at NLS and we need to
> protect ourselves. We need to scan all books
> available...just in case.
>
> Maithe
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jill O'Connell
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:55 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Duplicating NLS
> Titles
>
>
> I think your number 4 statement is unfair and
> inaccurate.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Monica Willyard
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:46 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Duplicating NLS Titles
>
>
> Hi. I can think of 4 compelling reasons to scan
> books that are currently available on cassette from
> NLS. In order of importance to me, they are:
>
> 1. NLS has said they're going to retire cassettes
> within a few years and do not plan to convert most
> of those titles to digital format. So they will be
> completely inaccessible in just a few years. 2013 is
> the year they're planning to begin this process.
> Does anyone remember what happened when they retired
> the great books on records? You still can't get over
> half of those older books anywhere now.
>
> 2. Cassettes are bulky and break easily. They are
> not really a great medium for books to begin with
> and are a hassle for people who like to read on the
> go. You can't easily search them for information you
> want or need, and you can't make bookmarks at your
> favorite passages while still being able to move
> around in the book.
>
> 3. Our deaf/blind and some of our learning disabled
> membership can't use audio and need material in
> Braille.
>
> 4. NLS has been grossly mismanaging their funding.
> Frankly, I think it's possible that they will be
> shut down if they don't shape up. Then we'd end up
> having to scan those books anyway, and we'd be
> reacting in a sort of panic. I'd rather have books
> in both places so if we lose one, we still have the
> other and aren't stranded.
>
> Monica Willyard
>
> Evan Reese wrote: I don't think that it is true
> that we frown on duplicate books. Personally, I
> don't think it should matter. I'm validating two
> books now that are part of the NLS collection, and
> very well recorded at that. There are many here who,
> for one reason or another, such as being deaf-blind
> or hard of hearing, can't access most of NLS's
> collection - since most of it is on tape. So whether
> a book is available from NLS should not be a factor
> in deciding whether to scan it for Bookshare. If it
> isn't in the collection, and it does not violate the
> legalities, then it is fair game.
>
> I also like Nero Wolfe, but when other commitments
> will allow me the time to scan any is something I'll
> have to look at. One thing in their favor is that
> most of them are not very long books, so they should
> be fairly quick scans.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:46 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Nero Wolf Was found 8 new
> Agatha Christie books!
>
>
> Hi,
> I know we frown on duplicate books and that NLS has
> a good deal of Nero
> Wolf audio books, but I know of hardly any braille
> ones, which makes me
> wonder how extensive our collection of Nero Wolf
> books is? That said, if
> anyone ever wants to scan them let me know and I'll
> validate.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme,
> Usability Engineering
> Highmark Inc.
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 412-544-1810
>
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