Hi, Ann, you probably know that samurai culture, although involving the use of politeness to one's social equals or superiors, never felt the need to be polite to one's social inferiors. However, that being said, since one speaks obliquely and not directly, there must be subtle methods to hint of one's true feelings for another person. You must be polite to the gai-jin while secretly thinking he or she is a barbarian compared to you, and after the fool is under the impression you like him/her when you'd rather not have anything to do with him/her. To top it off, he/she can't read that you despise him/her, ergo, gai-jin are foolish. I'm thinking that there may be a down side to this politeness if one dare not allow oneself to feel or even acknowledge or express one's true emotions. I'm sure you've heard of people who are repressed. Mind you, I don't have answers for this, I'm just playing devil's advocate to some degree. I think I would agree with you but with qualifications. Maybe I'm betwixt and between on the subject of politeness. This is a rather fun topic to hash out, and it is getting off topic for the list, so Ann, if you wish to email me off list, who knows what discussions we could get up to. Do let me know. Regards, Kim. -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:56 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OK, gang, got a weird one! Hi all, I suppose I should take this off list, but the subject of words and how they are used fascinates me, and well, I'm just continuing this thread. No, Kim, I didn't get a degree in anthropology, though I think I took one or two courses back when I was in college. I've had a long-standing interest in the subject, read Mead and so on. I've always been interested in different peoples and how they view the world. I guess I've just picked up a fair amount of anthropological facts as I've been passing through. I agree that I'd prefer people to actually like me, but I think there is something to be said for the Japanese strict code of courtesy in addressing other people. It can avoid problems. <smiling> If I don't like a person, I will tend to either ignore them or be extremely polite, overly polite. Ann P. -- AAnn K. Parsons Portal Tutoring Email: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web Site: http://www.portaltutoring.info blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/akp Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4247 (20090715) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4247 (20090715) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.