[bksvol-discuss] Re: OK, gang, got a weird one!

From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:13:29 EDT
The problem is that we do not have those antiquated characters on our
keyboards, so I am of the opinion that to conform to the book as closely as
possible we should change the letter to what it was intended to be. That is, if
an antiquated f is interpreted by our OCR as an s then we should change it to
an f.

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I don't know about Spanish, but I have some books of early American
essays where a double s looked like a sort of stretched out double f
(and I think there were some other cases where an individual s would
have the stretched out f).  I was intrigurd so I went to an online forum
on typography and asked about these letters.  The folks on the forum
said, yes, that is how such things were printed in the U.S. at that
time.  The same was true for German, but there the double s eventually
morphed into the letter that looks like a Greek beta.  At least that's
what I was told.  The real puzzle here, since many bookshare readers use
speech, should the text look right, or should it sound right.  I don't
think there is a perfect answer here (though I like the "if it's good
enough for a dissertation...").

Misha

Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I don't think it was universal. Germanic script, even though using a
> Roman alphabet, was significantly different. English, even though it
> was a Germanic language itself, used a Latinate script as a hangover
> from the Norman conquest. Also, that s instead of an f was not really
> an s. It looked very similar to an s and I imagine that might have
> something to do with it being changed, but if you could see it you
> would be able to tell it from an s. I did not make a habit of looking
> at antiquated English scripts before I lost my eyesight, so I don't
> remember about the u and v, but I would suspect that that u was not
> quite a u either. That could be settled, though, by someone with
> eyesight just taking a look at it and telling us.
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> Hi, gang, Just a comment from Kim here. During the seventeenth
> century, the word "wave" would be spelled W-A-u-e. I also noticed that
> in the eighteenth
> century, the letter S would be written with a letter F. Apparently
> what happened with old Spanish affected Early modern English as well.
> H'mm! I wonder
> if this orthography was universal throughout western Europe? Regards,
> Kim aka Ellinder.
>
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> Hi all,
>
> I’m working on The Lady in Blue by Javier Sierra.  At the end of the
> book is a document written in old Spanish.  Some of the
> “abnormalities” are standard
> orthographic conventions of the period, things like using the letter u
> where in modern Spanish there would be a V.  others are the result of
> the font.
> So, for instance,  the letter S looks like an F.  This also is typical
> of period texts.  My question: Should I correct/modernize it, or
> should I leave
> it?  One option would be to correct font issues, but leave the period
> orthography intact.   There is an English translation following the
> Spanish text.
>
> I appreciate any input.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Donna
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