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  • From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:07:17 -0600

Hi Melissa and Kim!

Good advice, Melissa!  It's always good to have a backup.

Kim, here is what I did, which accomplishes the same thing in the end that Melissa is doing, but in a slightly different way.

Of course, I used the save as command as Melissa did too.

This is an example of the filenames from the first book I proofed, since I have finished that one.

Of course, I checked out:

Love_on_Its_Knees_Deborah_Franson.rtf

I put that in my volunteer folder.

I made a subfolder off of the volunteer folder called working, where these variations of the file were saved.

Love_On_Its_Knees_10-25-09.rtf

Love_On_Its_Knees_10-26-09.rtf

Love_On_Its_Knees_10-27-09.rtf

Love_On_Its_Knees_10-29-09.rtf

Love_On_Its_Knees_10-30-09.rtf

Then, I have a subfolder off of the volunteer folder called uploading that I put the file in I was ready to check in, which i renamed to:

Love_On_Its_Knees.rtf

Debby

At 06:24 AM 11/4/2009, Melissa Smith wrote
Kim, one thing to consider doing, is to save a new copy each day. This way, if you mess something up, you have a copy to go back to, and you only have to go back over what you did that day. What I do is the following.

1. Open the file I downloaded from bookshare.
2. Go to the file menu.
3. Arrow down to save as, and press enter.
4. Name the file something like the book title proofing copy (TheSilverSaddleProofingCopy.rtf), and make sure it is saved in the same folder the original copy is in. 5. Each day, I'll open the previous days file, and do the same procedure as above, just including the current day's date as part of the filename. Doing this allows you to one keep a copy of the original file, just in case, and also have a copy that you can go back to with most of your changes in place. I actually have a folder called proofing, where I keep all the books I'm proofing for bookshare.

Melissa



Kim Friedman wrote:
Hi, Debby, I like using it because at least I know how the Braille should
look. I have come across little  things, for example, a word with an
ellipsis right next to it without a space and a second word connected to the
end of the ellipsis. I've read Braille for a long time and know that
ellipses should be by themselves with spaces separating them from
surrounding words. The scan I'm looking at is very clean. So far, there
aren't many errors. I did see a four word combination with hyphens except
for the last word, so put in a hyphen because maybe the scanner didn't catch
it. I listen to the text and follow along in Braille for the sake of double
checking. When I come across something I should get rid of, I use the arrow
keys on the computer to get me to the place and I'm looking at the Braille
display with one hand until I'm at the spot then delete something or correct
something. I'm trying not to mess with the scan or the spacing because I
don't know how to deal with that yet. My feeling is if it ain't broke, don't
fix it. I've been saving the changes I make every time I close the file, so
hopefully when it is done, I can send this file to the check in point at
Bookshare. I think I'll ask questions of the submitter if I run into
difficulties, but so far things are okay. What's nice about this is while
I'm proofreading the file, I'm reading the story. Yes, it's true, Debby, I'm
reading every single solitary word. Thanks for your note. I enjoy hearing
from you. I'm giving the computer a rest as it's almost 12:30 A.M. and I
want to finish my mystery magazine. Regards, Kim.

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Hi Kim!

I'm proud of you for figuring out how to get your Braille Note to help you
proof.  Way to go!  Is there an advantage to using a braille display while
proofing?  I don't have one, so I depend entirely on speech.

Debby

At 05:10 PM 11/2/2009, Kim Friedman wrote

Hi, Debby, what I understand is the submitter and proofreader can work together as a team. I want to do just enough and not too much, i.e., I don't want to mess up the submitter's work if I can help it. I was getting a bit frustrated before I thought to leave the file on the computer and both listen to and read the file in Braille. When I've mastered the word processing stuff in my BrailleNote manual (yawn), and know how to get the BrailleNOte to recognize the file, I'll continue in

this way I've chosen.

Right now, I'm reading every word of the text (I want to know what happens next). So I don't think I'll be one of those slam-bang jiffy proofreaders that I understand are the despair of conscientious submitters. I figure for now to proofread the sort of stuff I read anyway. Last night I was definitely beginning to have fun because I was progressing from helpless frustration to a mere glimmer of confidence. I'm not at the stage of being "an old hand". I'll cheer you on and expect

you'll do the same for me.

Regards, Kim.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:16 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: taking the plungeRE: Re: bookbooks

Hi Kim!

I hope you enjoy proofreading as much as I am. Just go through carefully, and I know you'll do fine.

Debby

At 06:49 PM 10/31/2009, Kim Friedman wrote

Hi, Debby, thanks for your comments. I appreciate making friends on this list. Wish me well, for I'm going to try proofreading again and hope it works out that every word is spelled right, every sentence lacks nothing the author intended to write and I hope my job is good enough that it ends up in the collection. Cross your fingers. Regards,

Kim.

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:50 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: taking the plungeRE: Re: bookbooks

Hi Kim!

Take your time when learning the scanning. There is no rush, and I know you can do it. You express yourself well, so I agree with whoever said it quite a few messages ago that you are sharp. Just a little shaky

confidence now.

A few years ago, I tried OmniPage, and that OCR package baffled me, so I know the feeling about something that is baffling.

Debby

At 05:34 PM 10/30/2009, Kim Friedman wrote

Hi, Monica, again, thanks much for writing. I thank you also for the compliment and I grant you I have my moments, but at other times, I don't feel sharp at all. I'll let you know when I actually do something or take the plunge into scanning. I'm not really worried about crashing the computer and I know I haven't hurt the scanner, but it's actually wanting to do it. Again, I don't think there's any rush on this, as long as I eventually screw up my courage

and say:

"Okay, Friedman, there's something I want to scan and now is the time for you to get off your rear end and do the thing." Take care, best regards, happy reading, and if you wish to write me off list, please do so. That way the list gurus won't get us into trouble. Kim

Friedman.

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica Willyard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:12 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bookbooks

Kim, you can put your book or scanner in any position you like. I have mine set up like yours with the lid at the back. Scanners come in different sizes and shapes. Because of that, and because of our computer desks, we all have slightly different set-ups. Kurzweil will detect if pages are upside down or sideways. It's something I really like about the program.

Just relax and try scanning something simple like a letter or a page in a novel. You'll find that you learn so much by experimenting. You can't hurt your scanner or crash your computer by

scanning something.

If it doesn't come out well, it just means that you need to adjust your settings in Kurzweil. We can teach you how to do that. You can do

this.

I can tell you're a sharp woman, and you're going to have fun once you get

started.

(smile)

Monica Willyard
"The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker


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