[bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses, and dashes

  • From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 17:32:53 -0700

What would make that difficult is that the footnote itself is so far from
where in the text one wold want to put it; otherwise it would be no more
difficult than what we do with picture or caption.

 I guess, though, if Kurzweill doesn't recognize superscript numbers  for
the reader the system of  space asterisk number space is what we should go
back to;  or is Kim's option number 2 better?  space footnote number space
-- wouldn't that cause confusion, make it seem the number is part of the
text itself? or d oes the context make it clear that it's a footnote
number? I'll be working soon on a couple of books that will have a lot of
footnote numbers
 Cindy


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Roger Loran Bailey <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  I doubt that this will be adopted, but as a reader I would prefer
> footnotes to be inserted into the text where the reference is made to them
> with the words beginning of footnote at their beginning and the words end
> of footnote at their end. As a volunteer, though, I don't think I would
> like the hassle of making it that way. That would be a lot of extra work.
>
> On 5/27/2014 12:07 PM, Kim Friedman wrote:
>
>  Hi Deborah, I too am proceeding differently when it comes to reading
> books. I have a BrailleNote mPower, but now I’m reading books with my Focus
> 40 blue Braille display using Kurzweil to do it. I had to make a setting so
> the reading voice would be quiet while I’m reading with the display. The
> display has a few quirks about it. For one thing, if I write in a dot 4,
> what will I get? Now we have to contend with the changes wrought by BANA
> and the UEBC (or whatever the heck it’s called). Regards, Kim Friedman.
>
>
>
> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
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> *On Behalf Of *Deborah Murray (Redacted sender 
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:53 AM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes,
> ellipses, and dashes
>
>
>
> Hi Kim, Richard, et al,
>
>
>
> I'm curious, too, regarding the identification of superscripted footnote
> numbers using various AT reading devices. I read a lot of Bookshare books
> using Kurzweil 1000, and it doesn't recognize superscript as far as I can
> tell. I also can't create a superscript in K1000 when I'm scanning/proofing
> my books.
>
> I wonder who is doing the testing and on what equipment. Madeleine?
>
>
>
> As to formatting the footnote section at the bottom of a page...
>
> We are supposed to re-connect words split across pages, but not sentences.
> I know, it can make reading a bit clunky, but that's the rule.
>
>
>
> A while back some folks wanted us to insert [Begin footnots], or something
> similar where the page transitions to footnotes. Most of us who expressed
> an opinion were NOT in favor of the extra verbiage, and we were told not to
> do so at that time.
>
> When I'm formatting a book I scan, I insert a line of asterisks between
> the end of the body text and the section of footnotes at the bottom of the
> page, just like we're supposed to do to indicate other transitions. I think
> any more than that is too intrusive.
>
> I guess I don't think it's too  much to ask readers of BS books to know
> how to use their equipment and software. It really isn't that hard to
> figure out where the footnotes begin as long as there is some indicator of
> the blank line that usually appears in a print book.
>
>
>
> *Deborah*
>
>
>
> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Kim Friedman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:19 AM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes,
> ellipses, and dashes
>
>
>
> Hi Richard, interesting question. I’d like to know the answer myself. Any
> takers? Regards, Kim Friedman.
>
>
>
> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *ohio1803@xxxxx
> *Sent:* Monday, May 26, 2014 11:28 PM
> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes,
> ellipses, and dashes
>
>
>
> *Can I ask this?*
>
>
>
> *As a reader, then, of the books from Bookshare, when the footnotes are in
> there, and with the number and the super script, how does the reader know
> that is what they are getting to?  *
>
>
>
> *In my experience, I can be reading a sentence near the bottom of the
> page, and it drops off and you come to the footnotes. *
>
> *2 questions.*
>
> *1. When this occurs does the instructions say to make that sentence
> complete before the footnote, by grabbing the text on the next page, or
> something like that?*
>
> *2. Would it be so bad to just have the text word Footnote before the
> footnote’s numeral? And in brackets?*
>
>
>
> *Sorry if this is off topic. Or covered already somewhere before.*
>
> *Perhaps I just need to be a better reader.*
>
>
>
> *Thanks.*
>
> *Richard*
>
>
>

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