[bksvol-discuss] Re: New Volunteer Looking for Help

  • From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:08:03 -0500

Sounds like you are almost there.

Simply add .rtf to the filename you put in earlier and try once more. It should 
read C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Black_And_White_f1.rtf  

You're doing fine.

Thanks.
Bob

p.s. I'm off to bed but there are a lot of night owls around who can help. Talk 
to you tomorrow.

Bob


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:46 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New Volunteer Looking for Help


  Okay, I am using JAWS 9.0 with Windows XP. Now, talk about having a memory 
problem! I went back to the upload page and had a definite problem remembering 
all that you said, but I think I made progress. This time I clicked the browse 
button and the first thing that came up was a field asking me for a file name, 
so I typed in Black_And_White_f1. I then clicked the open button and I was 
taken back to the upload page. This time there was something filled into the 
path field. I am going to try to repeat it for you here by toggling back and 
forth. It is C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Black_And_White_f1. I then 
clicked the accept button again and got an error message telling me that the 
extension of the file I selected is not valid for the format selected. That 
implies to me that all I need to do is type a few extra characters onto that 
and I should have it. Let me know if you can make any sense out of what I have 
just told you. By the way, in case you have not figured it out I am a near 
computer illiterate. Everything I know about the Internet or computers I 
learned by sitting down at the keyboard in complete ignorance and taught 
myself. That means that, despite the many long hours of frustration and 
suspicion that I had just wasted my money by even buying a computer, there is 
one hell of a lot about using a computer that I do not have a clue about. In 
fact, I am sure that there are one hell of a lot of things that can be done 
with a computer and that most of you probably do regularly that I do not even 
have a clue that it can be done. Now I am going to reread your complex message 
again and see if I can absorb something else from it.  In a message dated 
7/18/2008 8:56:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
    Hi Roger and welcome to the list.
    Okay, please give us more information when you tell us about a problem. You 
said you were using jaws, which version? It could make a difference. It might 
help if we knew what operating system you are using, windows/xp, vista, 95, 
98...

    The field you are trying to fill in probably causes more problems for more 
people.

    But, once you get used to it, you will breeze through this part of the 
upload process.

    Before you can tell bookshare to accept a book you need to tell it where 
the book is on your system. In the description which follows, I may not have 
all the fields and buttons named correctly. I am going from memory, and memory 
is not my best asset. 

    We'll use as an example a book  I uploaded yesterday. The book is titled 
"magic for beginners". But, I wound up with several versions of this book on my 
computer, so I had to tell the bookshare computer exactly which one I wanted to 
upload.

    It turns out that the book I wanted to upload is called "C:\Documents and 
Settings\Administrator\My Documents\Kurzweil Educational Systems\in 
progress\BSO_Magic_for_Beginners_f1.rtf".

    If I tried to type that I'd never get a good upload. I'm not that good a 
typist.

    Before the "accept" button, there are two fields. The first is an edit 
field where the brave at heart can type the complete path to where their book 
is. If you do type the name in this field then skip the next field which is a 
"browse" button. 

    However, most of us, I suspect, prefer to let our computers tell 
bookshare's computer where the book is, so we hit the browse button. This opens 
up another window which is the same kind of dialog you use when you open a file.
    It has a file-name, a file-type, an open button, a cancel button, and, 
finally, the fields that let you find the folder containing the book.

    In the first "look in" field, I would first search for the c drive.  When 
this is highlighted, I would tab to the next field (I forget what it is exactly 
called), but it's another "look in" field. Depending on which operating system 
you use, you may have two buttons between these fields. If so, just ignore them.
    In the second field your up and down arros will tell you which folders you 
are looking at. In my case, I want to go to the "documents and settings" and 
hit enter. This will bring up a list of all the files in "documents and 
settings". I am looking for the "administrator" folder. I find it and hit enter 
on it. Then I'm looking for the "my documents" folder, and so on and so on, 
until I go to the last folder needed, which is the "in progress" folder. I hit 
enter on that name, and arrow down to the "BSO_Magic_for_Beginners_f1.rtf" 
file. If I tab once it should take me to the file-name field which is filled in 
with the "BSO_Magic_for_Beginners_f1.rtf".

    So, I tab over to the open button and hit enter. This makes the screen go 
away and takes you back to where you were originally. However, that edit field 
where only the true-in-spirit dare type a file-name is now filled in with your 
file name, complete with all the preceeding folders etc.

    So, skip down to the "accept" button and hit enter.

    Give the two computers about five minutes to converse. As the manual says 
you should get a thank you screen. Check out the various fields and make sure 
the correct fields and checkboxes are correct.

    Then hit the "accept" button once more and your book will be set for 
administrator approval.

    Sorry about the long description, but I simply tried to tell you what I 
would have wanted to know when I started out.

    If you have further questions, let us know.

    Bob
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx 
      To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:56 PM
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New Volunteer Looking for Help


      I am also using JAWS. I did not know about insert escape in a situation 
like that, Anyway I have now just started over. Let me describe exactly what I 
typed into the file field. The title of the book is Black and White. I think 
that what I am supposed to type in is Black_And_White_f1. Does that look like 
it is correct? In a message dated 7/18/2008 7:47:25 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
agape.wellness.massage@xxxxxxxxx writes:
        What screen reader are you using.

        I use jaws so will press insert  escape  and then see if the page is 
silent....if it is I wait and give it time to upload.
        Then the second screen appears asking about the quality of the book and 
has the category check boxes.
        and other info.

        Then you press accept again at the bottom of that page and wait to get 
the thank you page.

        Laura Ann

        At 09:39 PM 7/18/2008, you wrote:

          As far as I know I did everything you said up until choosing accept. 
When I did that I did not go to another screen. I just sat there. In a message 
dated 7/18/2008 7:28:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
agape.wellness.massage@xxxxxxxxx writes:



            >Hello,


            You first go to step 2look for the book and

            choose  upload


            then you verify that the title, author, copyright holder, copyright 

            date are all correct.

            press the browse button and select the file to upload.


            Then choose accept

            then you come to the next screen which is rating the book.

            It shows you what quality the book is and you agree or disagree.


            double check the categories checked or check categories your book 

            falls under....one I just did fell under

            disability

            Religion and spirituality

            Romance

            Mystery and Thrillers


            Then add the ISBN or check it for accuracy


            make any comments and click

            accept


            you then get a screen thanking you for validating the book.


            I hope this helps.


            Welcome we are so glad your here volunteering.


            Please ask any questions you have.


            This is a helpful group.


            Laura Ann



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