Roger, I think you missed the second step I mentioned. I didn't number them--my mistake. Let's try again, without typing in anything. I am assuming that you have saved your file and/or worked on it in rtf. If you did it in KES then delete this post, because something strange happens when a person saves a KES as an rtf file and I don't know how to fix that. But if you validated in rtf or Word, thenm try following these steps in order. >1.Open your rtf file on which you've been working. 2."Save As" Black and White.rtf (no dashes and no .fl) 3. When you upload, hit the browse button, find the file that says black and white.rtf on your desktop, or whereever, and open. It will go into the browse space, I believe--though I know nothing about KES. 4. Then continue with the upload procedure. Good luck. smile Cindy To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.