[bksvol-discuss] Re: New Marissa's List

  • From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:08:37 -0500

Shelley,

I wouldn't have the slightest idea, but I'm guessing hmm, that just maybe a volunteer thought it met some of the rejection criteria... You'll find out when you get the reject notice. You can of course after reviewing its contents fix anything necessary and resubmit the book. So no big worries, hang in there.

Jake
----- Original Message ----- From: <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:38 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New Marissa's List



I would like to know why Making Life More Livable is on the rejection list.

That book was as flawless as I could get, has complete copyright information
and is not available anywhere else in electronic format, is available on
cassette from AFB but no where else.


Was one of my text books, and am naturally wondering.


Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Alumni Association Board www.guidedogs.com

Dog ownership is like a rainbow.
Puppies are the joy at one end.
Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
Carolyn Alexander

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:36 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New Marissa's List


Hi Cindy,

The rejection portion of the latest Marissa's List does not tell when the
books were rejected. What I can tell you is that since the last list, this
portion has more than doubled, and so it's pretty safe to say that a good
deal of the books were added in the last month.

This does not support that these books were not valid rejections. The books
could have had many things wrong with them, including, but not limited to,
missing pages/a huge chunk of the book, missing title/author, missing
copyright information, missing page breaks, missing whole parts of pages, or
overall poor quality, or any number of these combined.


And so, this does not support that someone should have taken the time to fix
these books. It means that something was wrong enough with the book that a
volunteer felt justified in recommending it for rejection.


In fact, here's a counter arguement to why people should not fix up poor
scans, unless there are special circumstances. Examples of special
circumstances could be that the book is rare or the type of book would
require a good deal of fixing no matter the scanner.

Consider, Cindy, the number of books you currently have out for validation,
and how long you have had them. If the book isn't special and you have had
it for more than, say, 6 weeks, then you've got too many books/projects, or
the book is in such bad condition it is taking you that long to fix it,
which means your time could better be spent. You let your books expire on
the step 1 page the other day and so below I have placed statistics about
the 20 books you have out for validation, 14 of which you have had since
2005! 75% (15) of these books you've held for more than 6 months!


To put the number of books you have out for validation into perspective, the
latest Marissa's List shows that in total there are 197 books checked out
for validation. You have 20. That means you alone have more than 10% of the
books currently checked out.


It's common for volunteers to check out a few books at a time, even,
encouraged if the volunteer is interested in the books and is going to do a
good job. However, Gerald and I have brainstormed about what the maximum
number of books (under normal circumstances) a volunteer should be allowed
to check out simultaneously. The number we've come up with...5. We feel that
more than this number is too big a split of a volunteer's resources, i.e.
you've bitten off a lot at once, and it seems unfair to deny other
volunteers the right to work on, (accept or reject) that book.


Cindy, you do a great deal for the BookShare.org community and you know that
we all appreciate every effort you put into our library.


But, please find something to do with all of the books you have, and realize
that not every book is worth saving. For instance, if you had rejected the
books you have been holding since 2005, some of them may have been rescanned
and in the collection by now.


Please do not take any more books to work on until you finish at minimum
half to three quarters of your current projects, if not all of them.

Thanks,
Jake
First Edit Date Title
10/25/2005 A Prince of Sinners
11/3/2005 Hope was Here
11/10/2005 Transit of Venus: Voyages in the Pacific
11/18/2005 Tammy, Tell Me True
11/27/2005 King Bongo: A novel of Havana
12/7/2005 Out of the Red Shadow
12/7/2005 Man From Nowhare - Bitter Grass
12/7/2005 Never Say Never
12/7/2005 The Language of Blood
12/7/2005 The Dead Suffered Too
12/7/2005 The Doomsday Marshal and the Hanging Judge
12/7/2005 The Establishment
12/7/2005 The One Minute Millionaire: The Enlightened Way to Wealth
12/7/2005 Holly
1/14/2006 The Defection of A. J. Lewinter
5/12/2006 All is Vanity
5/25/2006 Mao's Last Dancer
6/19/2006 Oklahoma Sweetheart
6/30/2006 The Memoirs of Cleopatra *hold for Cindy*
7/12/2006 Blood Royal *hold for Cindy*

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:22 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New Marissa's List


Wow!! So many new books have been submitted from, I
assume, commercial sources, and you volunteers have
been so busy (I say you, because I'm slower and still
working on one long but fascinating one) that there
are  approcxiamtely 275 books waiting for admin
approval. If only someone could help Gustavo with that
project.

And 350 awaiting validation.

And, for those of you who like statistics, 143 on the
rejected list. Some of those look really good; the one
on the top would be good to have for Christmas. Mabe
some of you who like to scan could scan some of the
rejected books. Jake, is there any way to tell when
those books were rejected? If they were rejected some
time ago and haven't been rescanned, then that would
support my argument that having someone like me
validate and fix it, even if it takes a while, would
be better than outright rejection.

Cindy

--- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi all,

Gustavo kindly sent me a copy of today's new
Marissa's List, which is available at:

http://www.jbrownell.com/bks/ml.asp

Enjoy,
Jake


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