Evan, The issue isn't what OpenBook or K-1000 does with them, but what Duxbury does with them. They'll be fine in DAISY, but I haven't a clue as to how they'll look in BRF. Maybe Pratik knows, but you may just have to try it and see. Whatever it does, it should be consistent, so I doubt anyone will have trouble recognizing that they denote a footnote. HTH Gerald _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:52 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Need Help with Footnote Symbols Ah, so that's what the daggers look like. Thanks, Gerald. But that still leaves the question as to what the Bookshare software will do with the daggers. Will it recognize them? If not, what does it do with symbols it doesn't recognize? Does it put in some generic character for all unrecognized characters, or does it just dump them as junk? If it doesn't, what should I put in their place? I don't want books I've spent a lot of time on looking like blank because I tried to make the book as close to the original as possible only to find out later that I wasted energy putting in characters the Bookshare software couldn't handle. I have to put in these characters because my OpenBook didn't recognize them. Does K1000 do any better with such stuff? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald <mailto:GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> Hovas To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Need Help with Footnote Symbols Evan, My guess would be that the first is an asterisk, the second is a dagger, and the third is a double dagger. You can get the daggers using JAWS by pressing Insert-4. Gerald _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:26 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Need Help with Footnote Symbols This book I've scanned has a few pages with multiple footnotes. The first one is denoted by what my OpenBook identifies as an asterisk, although the corresponding footnote at the bottom of the page is marked with what my OpenBook identifies as a bullet. If there is a second footnote on the same page, my OpenBook marks it with a letter t, and the corresponding footnote at the bottom of the page is also marked with a letter t. There are a couple of instances where there is a third footnote on the same page, this one my Openbook marks with an x, and the corresponding footnote at the bottom of the page is also marked with an x, although it puts the 'unrecognized text marker' I selected to show that it isn't sure about that. I think the only reason OB marks the first footnote with an asterisk in the text is because it seems to decide that that is the best choice when a symbol that kinda looks like a star is right up against text, but at the bottom of the page, it seems to realize that a bullet is more appropriate when in front of text. To me with my Optacon, it really does look round, and not like a star. But my question is about the others: The one my OB marks as t does look like a t except that the horizontal line is too long for a loer-case t - a cross, perhaps? The one marked as an x looks like two of these 'crosses'? joined together, or a vertical line with two horizontal lines, one near the top and one near the bottom. Firstly, could someone tell me what these symbols are called? And secondly, what should I put in that the Bookshare software won't zorch? I need to be able to differentiate between multiple footnotes on the same page, so I guess I could just put in star 1, star 2, etc. Is that what most people do? On most pages there is just one footnote denoted by the bullet. Do I need to substitute something else for these? Thanks for any info.