[bksvol-discuss] Re: My Search Experiences, WAS: Re: Re: Modify Search Boxyikes on the new search

  • From: "Lynn I" <lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:47:09 -0600

I'm sure you're right, Valerie. We might just have to accept what is. I can
only imagine the long hours that engineering put in developing this new
tool.

Blessings.

Lynnsky
 

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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: My Search Experiences, WAS: Re: Re: Modify
Search Boxyikes on the new search

I am with you both, Melissa and Lynnsky!  My guess is they would need two
databases to do that and not want to do double maintenance.

Or, they need to develop an exact match only search for s specified field.
Still a lot of work to engineer the database search.  That is why most
libraries go commercial, but it costs very big bucks.

Valerie


On Jan 16, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Lynn I wrote:

> I really like that suggestion--but I'd guess engineering will not feel 
> the same way. *smile*
> 
> Blessings.
> 
> Lynnsky
> 
> 
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> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa 
> Smith
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:32 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: My Search Experiences, WAS: Re: Re: 
> Modify Search Boxyikes on the new search
> 
> I'm thinking that perhaps, the quick search should be the original, 
> without the full text search, and, the advanced search can include the 
> full text search. When using the advanced search, you should be able 
> to fill in the criteria you what to search for and it only search on 
> that parameter. I really like the full text search, but see that it 
> gives a lot of results that aren't really relevant to what people are 
> searching for. The advanced search has a box to search on the full 
> text parameter, and I'm thinking that should be the only place the full
text search appears.
> 
> Melissa
> 
> 
> 
> 
> siss52 wrote:
>> It seems to me that the search engine was better like it was.  I 
>> could search for a particular title, and if it was not in the 
>> collection, I just did not get any results.  I would rather have it 
>> that way than to get irrelevant results.
>> 
>> Sue S.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Debby Franson" <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 5:55 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] My Search Experiences, WAS: Re: Re: Modify 
>> Search Boxyikes on the new search
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Jamie and everyone!
>> 
>> I didn't have much time to play with the new search engine last 
>> night, since it was getting late, so I'm back at it for a while today.
>> 
>> I was browsing on ChristianBook.com and wanted to look to see whether 
>> Bookshare had a book I thought looked interesting.
>> 
>> I used the Bookshare Quick Search to search for
>> 
>> "Stories Behind the Traditions and Songs of Easter"
>> 
>> with the quotes.
>> 
>> I got two results.  I was also asked:
>> 
>> Did you mean:
>> stories behind the best-loved songs of christmas
>> 
>> Showing 1
>> through
>>  2 of 2 results
>> 
>> More Stories Behind the Best-Loved Songs of Christmas  by Ace Collins
>> 
>> Stories Behind the Great Traditions of Christmas  by Ace Collins
>> 
>> It was nice to see that I only got two results when I searched for 
>> that title in the quick search, the way I used to instead of 
>> thousands, so I decided to try the advanced search.
>> 
>> I searched for "Evans to Betsy" and don't think I used the quotes by 
>> typing that title in the edit box for the title and was shown that 
>> book only instead of hundreds or thousands of unrelated books.
>> 
>> I paged back once just to get at the same starting point in the 
>> advanced search, even though I didn't think I really had to do that, 
>> just doing it for comparison's sake, and decided to try that author, 
>> so I typed in Rhys Bowen and got 15 search results instead of thousands.
>> 
>> Only the last two books out of the fifteen results were by another 
>> author than Rhys Bowen.
>> 
>> Going back and searching on Jamie's example of Gallo gave me 619 
>> search results.  I didn't change any of the combo boxes to see what 
>> would
> happen.
>> 
>> The relevant books are:
>> 
>> Sixteen
>>  by
>> Donald R. Gallo
>> 
>> On the Fringe
>>  by
>> Donald R. Gallo
>> 
>> The rest of the 25 books on that first search page were from every 
>> author but Donald R. Gallo, so does that mean that those are the only 
>> books in the collection by him?  I am unfamiliar with the author and 
>> his
> books.
>> 
>> Debby
>> 
>> At 06:16 PM 1/15/2010, Jamie Yates, CPhT wrote
>> 
>>> Ok I'm going to try this. I put Gallo into the search box. I got
>>> 2,678 results with The Millionaires by Brad Meltzer as the top 
>>> result (go figure).
>>> 
>>> I changed my sort order to By Author instead of By Relevance (since 
>>> obviously relevance is relative since it wasn't relevant to me).
>>> 
>>> I still got the same number of results (way too many) and now the 
>>> top book is even farther away from what I want, certainly not the 
>>> author of
> Gallo.
>>> 
>>> So I clicked on the authors box and it gives me a list of authors, 
>>> but not a single one of them has Gallo in the author's name.
>>> 
>>> I think on the front page there should be a box you check if you 
>>> want the full text search, otherwise you get the same basic search 
>>> we used to
> have.
>>> Or the other way around, check a box to get the same basic search we 
>>> used to have. I don't have time to look through 2,678 results to see 
>>> if there are any books in the collection with an author by the name 
>>> of
> Gallo.
>>> 
>>> I suspect few of us have this kind of time either, which means we're 
>>> just not going to scan books for fear they're already in the 
>>> collection, or we're going to say to heck with it and waste our time 
>>> scanning a book that may be in the collection but how in the heck 
>>> are we
> supposed to find it?
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
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