It's interesting that this appears to have been the case for a long time now, because I've noticed the multiple titles, but only fairly recently. I haven't seen it in too many books I've read, but I've been reading some of the books I've downloaded quite a while back, but when I know it's something I've downloaded at least somewhat recently, that's where the multiple titles seem to be. Take care. Julie Morales Life is a gift from God. What we do with it is our gift to Him. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Hovas To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:36 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages OK, I've also goneback and checked some of the earliest files I downloaded, and they have the multiple titles at the top of the file, too. Looks like it's always been there, or at least for a couple of years, and no one's noticed or bothered to ask before. I don't see why they should be there, but I don't think it's a big deal. Still, I'll mention it to Bookshare. HTH Gerald ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald Hovas Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:23 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages Interesting. I checked the HTML file, and it has multiple titles at the top of it as well. It has the title, followed by the author and title, followed by the title twice. Looks like Bookshare has a problem with the tool which adds the legal notice at the top of the books. Pratik and I'll check into it. Gerald ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:07 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages The version of "Knife of Dreams" has six titles at the top. First there's the centered title, then the author's name, then five more titles, some centered, some just indented two spaces in the brf file I have. They appear to alternate between being centered and indented two spaces, but there are six of them, then one more after the legal boilerplate. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Hovas To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages Jill, No, I don't. That's the first I've heard about the problem. Would you mind sending me a few names of some books which have the problem so I can ask about it? Gerald ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jill O'Connell Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 10:38 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages Gerald, to you happen to know why we are seeing the book title five or six times in a row in the newer books; at least this is the case in braille. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Hovas To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages Monica, Whoever designed the Stripper seems to have taken the title page into consideration. I wouldn't worry about this page. The only pages at the beginning of the book where it might be necessary to worry about something getting stripped would be the headings on the pages of the Table of Contents and the Acknowledgements. I've been treating these headings like chapter headings and protecting them. As for the roman numeral pages at the beginning of books, I'd treat them the same as the headers and page numbers in the rest of the book. The Stripper seems to have been designed to handle roman numerals as page numbers. At least I haven't noticed any difference in how the Stripper treats them. The evidence that the Stripper seems to understand them is that it's not adding page numbers to these pages in the HTML files. I've recently noticed that the Stripper seems to have a problem with blank pages where a page number has been added, making the page number the only thing on the page. I've spotted two page numbers on these pages in the HTML files, indicating that the Stripper didn't recognize the page number and didn't strip it. The Stripper appears to be storing a page number in the SMIL file based on what it expected to find but didn't, and then adding that guess back to that page when the HTML file is created resulting in two page numbers for the page. As I said, I haven't noticed a second set of page numbers on the pages with roman numerals, so the Stripper appears to understand that they are page numbers and treats them accordingly. However, I haven't been looking that close at them, though, because I don't recall having worked on a book which had them. My advice would be to treat them as if they were arabic page numbers, then download the book once it makes it into the collection and see what happened. I'll try to pay closer attention when I validate a book with roman numerals to see exactly what is happening. HTH Gerald -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica Cortada Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 7:26 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Stripper and Preliminary Pages What would be the ideal treatment of the first few pages of a book like the title page? Should a placeholder header be put here for the stripper to strip? Also, what should be done with the roman numeral page numbers at the beginning of a book? Sorry to have so many questions and thanks for your patience. Monica in Maryland -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/339 - Release Date: 5/14/2006