[bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles

  • From: Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:12:58 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Jill,

There are two options.  One is to rescan the whole book, as you said, but 
there's another one which sounds like it would take less time.  A sighted 
person could get the book from a library, ask me to put the book back on the 
download list, grab the book from the download list, put in the chapter titles 
WITH protection (like the page number), and upload it again.  I approve it and 
we're done.
If the book has a table of contents with the chapter titles listed, then a 
visually impaired person could do the same thing, using the table of contents 
to find the correct page to put the chapter title and protection. This is what 
Bob Wiley just did with the 3 Theodore Sturgeon books he was editing.

Carrie


----- Original Message ----
From: Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:29:04 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles

 
Carrie, When we read a book in the collection and 
find there are no chapter headings, the book otherwise being in excellent 
condition, is there anything that can be done about this other than rescanning 
the book? jill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Carrie Karnos 
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:02  PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing  story titles

Hi  Bob,

I hate to say this, but I checked the first Sturgeon book, saw the  several 
blank lines before each story title, approved the book, downloaded the  DAISY 
version, and the story titles are gone.  This is just flat wrong.  I'll talk to 
Engineering about it tomorrow.  I'll leave the other  Sturgeon books in the 
approval queue until this gets sorted  out.

Sorry!  It will get fixed, sooner or later (hopefully  sooner!)  Carrie


-----  Original Message ----
From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:  bookshare volunteer discussion <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent:  Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:03:07 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing  story titles

I just wanted to give you kind folks a follow-up on the  missing story titles
in the Theodore Sturgeon  collections.

Originally, I noticed that just about all the titles of  the stories in one
of these collections was missing. My first thought was  to blame the
validator for not noticing this obvious error and fixing it.  It turned out
that Misha was the hapless recipient of my anger, and I know  that he's a
careful validator and wouldn't let something like that go. So  then I thought
of the scannor, which was Carrie. Carrie is also an  excellent scannor and
wouldn't let something like that get by. I was  beginning to think of things
like divine intervention and demon  posession.

I asked Carrie to send me the original document which was  submitted by the
validator, which she did, and "ah ha!" those ppesky titles  were in place. In
fact, they seemed to be grinning up at me as if to say...  but, I digress.

It turns out that the infamous stripper was doing the  dirty to this
collection.

A short check of the bookshare collection  shows that there are three other
collections of Mr. Sturgeon's stories  missing story titles in the bookshare
collection.

I have just  uploaded those three books with, I hope, story titles in tact.
It turns out  that
the solution is quite simple: I simply put a paragraph mark before and  after
all page breaks, and that damned stripper is fooled into leaving my  titles
alone.

Just wanted to give a follow-up to this pesky  problem.

Bob

"Strippers belong in bars, not libraries."--Author  unknown.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent:  Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story  titles


> hmm, makes me wonder if the "stripper," should be used  at all? Aren't we
> sophisticated enough by this time to handle the  vagaries of what is
> needed?
> Or, maybe not?
>
>  Curtis Delzer
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Devorah  Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
> To:  <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 8:31 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re:  Missing story titles
>
>
> Ouch ouch. Like Bob, I am more  confused now. Plus I don't have the
> benefit of ever experiencing what  these books are like after I validate
> them because I'm sighted. So  it's like dropping many hours of work into
> a black hole and hoping for  the best. And I, like many of you guys, am a
> perfectionist. So I go  over every word, check spellings in weird foreign
> names, check  everything, make it as perfect as I can, and upload it.
>
> But  then what is happening to my work?
>
> I always do the wonderful  ^p^m^p thing so that there are blank lines on
> either side of the page  breaks. But I have NOT been re-typing each page
> number on the top of a  page if the page numbers are at the bottom.
>
> I have left page  numbers at the bottom of the page. Am I now correct in
> my  understanding that they all get wiped out? Even if there is a blank
>  line between the page number and the following page break?
>
> I  do put a page number on the top of the first page of a chapter. It
>  just makes sense to do that. But is it mandatory put all other page
>  numbers at the top of each page?
>
> If the mysterious stripper is  so smart can't it tell numeric characters
> from alphabetic characters  and leave numeric page numbers at the bottom
> of the  page?
>
> Devorah
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