On the point of the words hyphen and dash being used interchangeably, That is only partially true. When I hear someone saying the word hyphen they virtually always mean hyphen. However, when I hear someone using the word dash they might mean either hyphen or dash. I do note that the screen reader I use pronounces the hyphen as dash. It remains, though, that whether a screen reader is calling a hyphen a dash or a human is calling a hyphen a dash they are calling it by the wrong name.
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To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fonts Sue and Mayrie;It really is difficult when editing terms are not used consistently amongst different programs. For what it is worth, speech recognition handles the word dash and the word hyphen in the style that sue indicated. It does get very confusing, however, not everyone is coming from the same background. That's why some of these discussions can be both frustrating and helpful, depending on which perspective you come from. For me, it is helpful to know that we are speaking about the same thing, just using different words.
The funny thing is that growing up I never knew that there was a difference between a dash or a hyphen, so I probably grew up in Mayrie's school of learning. Smiles.
Valerie Please pray for and follow Nichole's recovery: http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/nicholemaples On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Mayrie ReNae wrote:
Hi Sue, Wow, we had a big miscommunication. I always heard the words dash andhyphen used interchangeably. Fortunately, it doesn't matter any more, sincewe don't need to convert em dashes to anything at all any more. Whew! Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:30 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fonts Hi Mayrie, In the days when I took dictation on the dictaphone, if someone said dash,they meant two hyphens, not one hyphen. If they said hyphen, they meant onehyphen, not a dash, which was two hyphens. Thus, I do not understand what you mean when you say we were never told to convert M-dashes to dashes. (smile) Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:14 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fontsHi Roger, Never were we told to convert em dashes to a dash. It used to be necessary to convert them to two hyphens, but now the conversion tools do this for us. A dash is a hyphen creating a compound word, an em dash, or in the old days, two hyphens denoted a pause in the reading. Very, very different things, soif people are converting em dashes to a single hyphen or dash, they're nothelping at all! Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 10:07 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fonts As I recall, we were told some time back that it is better if we change the m dashes to a dash, but it is not required. _ _ _"Everything must justify its existence before the judgment seat of Reason,or give up existence." - Friedrich Engels Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/rogerbailey81 The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press: http://www.pathfinderpress.com Granma International: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html----- Original Message ----- From: "Regina Alvarado" <regina.alvarado6@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:59 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fontsAh something else I didn't know. I have been changing those crazy M-s to1 dash. One less step I guess! Sorry Cindy for the misinformation. Reggie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chela Robles Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 4:47 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dashes and fonts Cindy good news you can leave the m dashes in since the braille translation software can now read them correctly, as far as fonts go, I'll let someone else answer that. Smiley good to have you back again. -- "To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be sophisticated, but when you get the two of them together in a way people can relate to, then I think you're on to something. 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