Thanks Pratik. Cindy --- Pratik patel <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Cindy, > > Please stick with the M-dash character when you > enter it. The automated > tools may not support the proper conversion, but, we > have to make sure that > future versions of those tools do support such > conversions. The em-dash > character is a slightly shorter character than the > double dash (--). I know > we have been working with the formatting to satisfy > the stripper > requirement; but we should try to take a > conservative approach when editting > the original text especially when it comes to > formatting. In some cases, we > might have to move words around or make slight font > changes but we should > avoid making other changes. > > Pratik > > > > > > Pratik Patel > Director, CUNY Assistive technology Services (CATS) > The City University of New York > pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Cindy > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 12:55 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dash, how to make > it? > > Is Lissi right in what she says about two dashes > instead of an em dash being easier to read in > braile? > What about with Daisy? What should I be doing, em > dash > or double dash? > > Cindy > > --- Estelnalissi <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Dear Jake, > > > > Your directions worked perfectly! I'm levitating! > We > > all know I'm not the > > fastest barge on the canal when it comes to > > computers, but your instructions > > put those m dashes exactly where I needed them. > > > > The M dash will be especially easy to remember > > because it's insert 4 as you > > said for jaws, and then tapping e 4 times to reach > m > > dash and enter not even > > having to go to OK! > > > > Also exciting is the fact I saw a slew of items > > listed in the insert 4 > > dialogue box which may turn out to be useful!! > > > > The book I'm working on is an Irish memoir. > Instead > > of using quotes or > > apostrophes, there's a dash or m dash before all > > quotes and no mark to show > > the end of the quote. It's plain in print because > > quotes are inserted > > farther than the narrative, but I think braille > > readers will quickly catch > > the pattern. > > > > While blissfully making my corrections with the > new > > command, I noticed that > > the scanner read these unique indications of > quotes > > as dash about half of > > the time and M dash the other half with some minus > > signs thrown in for > > variety. The mixture was random so I made a > command > > decision to use the > > simpler dash to indicate quotes. I'm on page 27 > now > > and all quotes are > > uniformly indicated with a single dash, easier for > > me and the reader. > > > > By the way, when this book is approved, I'm going > to > > mention that while > > anyone interested in quirky humor, Irish culture > and > > recalling life from > > 1959 through 1960 something will like this book, > but > > the POV, and the > > father, a kind of hero to the author will really > > appeal to the gritty guys > > among the members. I'm entranced, but regularly > > amused in spite of myself > > and grossed out, too. > > > > Always with love, > > > > Lissi > > > > Thanks for helping me to enjoy another break > > through! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:52 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dash, how to make > > it? > > > > > > > Hi Lissi, > > > There are two easy ways to insert an em-dash > > > > > > If you're using Microsoft Word, you can press > > CTRL+ALT+the minus sign on > > > the numpad. > > > > > > If you're using JAWS, you can press INSERT+4 > (the > > 4 on the regular > > > keyboard) and you'll get a list of symbols. > Press > > the letter e a few times > > > and you'll find em dash, then press enter. > > > > > > That's all there is to it. > > > > > > Jake > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:16 PM > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] M dash, how to make > it? > > > > > > > > >> Dear Volunteer Friends, > > >> > > >> There was a discussion here about making that > > long dash called m dash by > > >> Jaws using microsoft word while validating an > RTF > > file. How to make it > > >> with other programs might have been mentioned, > > too. > > >> > > >> What I mostly remember is that it was suggested > > that just using 2 dashes > > >> comes out better for the braille reader in > > Bookshare's BRF file of a > > >> book. So, I decided that when I had a choice, > I'd > > use 2 dashes. > > >> > > >> However, the book I'm validating is already > > packed with m dashes, so if I > > >> fix one, I thought it should match them. > > >> > > >> How do I make an m dash? Occasionally jaws > calls > > an m dash a minus, and I > > >> want to replace the minus signs with m dashes. > If > > anyone can point me to > > >> the answer or remind me how to do this, I'd > > appreciate it and save the > > >> information in my Bookshare Tips file. > > >> > > >> While I wait to hear about this, I'll mark the > > spot and go on. I'm only > > >> on page 12, but this book really motivates me > to > > make good progress. > > >> > > >> Hope all of your current endeavors are going > > swimmingly. - Smile > > >> > > >> Always with love, > > >> > > >> Lissi > > >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > Email > > to > > >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject line. To get a list > > >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by > > itself in the subject line. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/354 > - > > Release Date: 6/1/2006 > > >> > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > > to > > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject line. 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