[bksvol-discuss] Re: M dash, how to make it?

From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 15:38:00 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks Pratik.

Cindy

--- Pratik patel <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Cindy,
> 
> Please stick with the M-dash character when you
> enter it.  The automated
> tools may not support the proper conversion, but, we
> have to make sure that
> future versions of those tools do support such
> conversions.  The em-dash
> character is a slightly shorter character than the
> double dash (--).  I know
> we have been working with the formatting to satisfy
> the stripper
> requirement; but we should try to take a
> conservative approach when editting
> the original text especially when it comes to
> formatting.  In some cases, we
> might have to move words around or make slight font
> changes but we should
> avoid making other changes.
> 
> Pratik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Pratik Patel
> Director, CUNY Assistive technology Services (CATS)
> The City University of New York
> pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Cindy
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 12:55 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dash, how to make
> it?
> 
> Is Lissi right in what she says about two dashes
> instead of an em dash being easier to read in
> braile?
> What about with Daisy? What should I be doing, em
> dash
> or double dash?
> 
> Cindy
> 
> --- Estelnalissi <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Jake,
> > 
> > Your directions worked perfectly! I'm levitating!
> We
> > all know I'm not the 
> > fastest barge on the canal when it comes to
> > computers, but your instructions 
> > put those m dashes exactly where I needed them.
> > 
> > The M dash will be especially easy to remember
> > because it's insert 4 as you 
> > said for jaws, and then tapping e 4 times to reach
> m
> > dash and enter not even 
> > having to go to OK!
> > 
> > Also exciting is the fact I saw a slew of items
> > listed in the insert 4 
> > dialogue box which may turn out to be useful!!
> > 
> > The book I'm working on is an Irish memoir.
> Instead
> > of using quotes or 
> > apostrophes, there's a dash or m dash before all
> > quotes and no mark to show 
> > the end of the quote. It's plain in print because
> > quotes are inserted 
> > farther than the narrative, but I think braille
> > readers will quickly catch 
> > the pattern.
> > 
> > While blissfully making my corrections with the
> new
> > command, I noticed that 
> > the scanner read these unique indications of
> quotes
> > as dash about half of 
> > the time and M dash the other half with some minus
> > signs thrown in for 
> > variety. The mixture was random so I made a
> command
> > decision to use the 
> > simpler dash to indicate quotes. I'm on page 27
> now
> > and all quotes are 
> > uniformly indicated with a single dash, easier for
> > me and the reader.
> > 
> > By the way, when this book is approved, I'm going
> to
> > mention that while 
> > anyone interested in quirky humor, Irish culture
> and
> > recalling life from 
> > 1959 through 1960 something will like this book,
> but
> > the POV, and the 
> > father, a kind of hero to the author will really
> > appeal to the gritty guys 
> > among the members. I'm entranced, but regularly
> > amused in spite of myself 
> > and grossed out, too.
> > 
> > Always with love,
> > 
> > Lissi
> > 
> > Thanks for helping me to enjoy another break
> > through!
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:52 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: M dash, how to make
> > it?
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Lissi,
> > >    There are two easy ways to insert an em-dash
> > >
> > > If you're using Microsoft Word, you can press
> > CTRL+ALT+the minus sign on 
> > > the numpad.
> > >
> > > If you're using JAWS, you can press INSERT+4
> (the
> > 4 on the regular 
> > > keyboard) and you'll get a list of symbols.
> Press
> > the letter e a few times 
> > > and you'll find em dash, then press enter.
> > >
> > > That's all there is to it.
> > >
> > > Jake
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:16 PM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] M dash, how to make
> it?
> > >
> > >
> > >> Dear Volunteer Friends,
> > >>
> > >> There was a discussion here about making that
> > long dash called m dash by 
> > >> Jaws using microsoft word while validating an
> RTF
> > file. How to make it 
> > >> with other programs might have been mentioned,
> > too.
> > >>
> > >> What I mostly remember is that it was suggested
> > that just using 2 dashes 
> > >> comes out better for the braille reader in
> > Bookshare's BRF file of a 
> > >> book. So, I decided that when I had a choice,
> I'd
> > use 2 dashes.
> > >>
> > >> However, the book I'm validating is already
> > packed with m dashes, so if I 
> > >> fix one, I thought it should match them.
> > >>
> > >> How do I make an m dash? Occasionally jaws
> calls
> > an m dash a minus, and I 
> > >> want to replace the minus signs with m dashes.
> If
> > anyone can point me to 
> > >> the answer or remind me how to do this, I'd
> > appreciate it and save the 
> > >> information in my Bookshare Tips file.
> > >>
> > >> While I wait to hear about this, I'll mark the
> > spot and go on. I'm only 
> > >> on page 12, but this book really motivates me
> to
> > make good progress.
> > >>
> > >> Hope all of your current endeavors are going
> > swimmingly. - Smile
> > >>
> > >> Always with love,
> > >>
> > >> Lissi
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