[bksvol-discuss] Re: Losing My Em Dashes: Major Irony

  • From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:28:06 -0400

Definitely ironic.  Sorry, you won't get any gloating from me.
Did you use K1K to transfer the file to your PAC-Mate or did you try to use
the Active Sync connection?  And, did you try to  transfer the original kesi
file or the RTF?  I'm trying to understand the process you used to see if I
can replicate it.  Just for your information, I believe K1K uses the
infamous Duxbury translator for Braille conversion.  That's what I suspect
is taking away the long dash.
Long Dash is the correct term for the em-dash character.  As Kellie said,
it's a printer's term.  Now both terms are used interchangeably.


From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:32 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Losing My Em Dashes: Major Irony

Thanks, Kellie.  As I said, the only difference is that I was using K1000
instead of OpenBook.  But I haven't been able to test OpenBook on this
particular book, because I can't get it to run, and I don't know if I want
to hassle with it.  I didn't lose them in previous books I scanned with OB,
though.  The rtf file converted from the kes file of the last book I scanned
still had the em dashes in it, but somehow in the transfer to the Pac Mate,
they got lost.  I have a big book I'm scanning this weekend with K1000, and
we'll see what happens then.  Unless things are totally weird, I imagine
that they will be lost in this one as well.  Then I will have to decide what
to do about it.  I actually went through the last book I submitted and
replaced them with Word's tab search and replace, but that took a good while
and I'm not going to do that again.  I have definitely decided that much.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kellie Hartmann <mailto:hart0421@xxxxxxx>  
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Losing My Em Dashes: Major Irony

Hi Evan,
Yes, long dash is Kurzweil's way of saying em-dash; they probably used this
language because em-dash is a printer's term that most people might not
know, except the deranged perfectionists resident in this here asylum.
<grin> I don't know which program or which transfer messed up your
em-dashes. However, these complications are very common and one of the
reasons why some have recommended replacing em-dashes with two regular
dashes. The difference to a sighted print reader is negligible, it works in
braille translation, and doesn't get corrupted/confused when moving a file
between programs.

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