I totally understand what you mean by levels of permission according to a
computer and a set of databases. Thank you for speaking to the difference
betweeen social permissions and purely necessary ones for programming
purposes. For example, I as a volunteer have computer permission to both
view and download things from step 1 where a patron or potental scanner of
a book would have permission to view but not download things from step 1.
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To clarify: I was talking to Gerald in a purely technical sense. Permission on a computer level means completely different thing and not what you and others may assume. In heinsight, I should've e-mailed gerald privately so as not to confuse the list. My sincerest appologies.
Pratik
-----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:07 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Knowing When Books Are Kicked Back To Step 1
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I am interest in the fact that somone wishing to scan a book would somehow have legal trouble knowing that the book is already scanned, validated and waiting to be approved. What harm would be done if a user, or anyone for that matter, knew that such a book existed and therefore did not waste effort re-scanning it?
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>The issues could be quite complicated, depending on how the current system >is setup. Let's say that only certain people in Bookshare are currently >allowed to see the list of books that are in the admin queue. I am assuming >that the system currently allows Bookshare to define permission >groups--i.e., administrators, volunteers, users. If that is not so, >however, the system of publishing lists for other users may become a bit >difficult. I cannot speculate at this time whether or not permissions will >interfere but was pointing out to Gerald that they may. > >Pratik > >Pratik Patel >Director, CUNY Assistive technology Services (CATS) >The City University of New York >pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx > > >-----Original Message----- >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Julie Morales >Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:25 PM >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Knowing When Books Are Kicked Back To Step 1 > >Hi, Pratik. How would permissions interfere with that process? I'm just >curious. All we'd need is just a list...nothing we could modify or change. >Take care. >Julie Morales >Life is a gift from God. What we do with it is our gift to Him. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pratik patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 3:18 AM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Knowing When Books Are Kicked Back To Step 1 > > >And, this wouldn't be too difficult to accomplish as engineering only has to >use the current basic template and slightly modify it. Of course, I am >hoping that permissions don't interfere in this process though. > >Pratik > >Pratik Patel >Director, CUNY Assistive technology Services (CATS) >The City University of New York >pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx > > >-----Original Message----- >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald Hovas >Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 2:59 AM >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Knowing When Books Are Kicked Back To Step 1 > >Cindy, > >What I'm campaigning for is a link you can click on which will pull up the >current list of books in the admin queue and a link which will pull up the >current list of books out for validation. Jake and I believe that >Engineering should be able to copy the Step 1 page and modify it to support >a new list. Of course, the process would have to be done twice: once for >the admin queue and once for books out for validation. We believe that >Engineering should be able to drop the third column from the Step 1 page and >change the querry that builds the table so that it pulls a different set of >books. That would let us see the lists in real-time, just like the list of >books waiting to be downloaded for validation. > >HTH > >Gerald > >-----Original Message----- >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy >Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 12:00 AM >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Knowing When Books Are Kicked Back To Step 1 > >Great ideas. Would the Marissa's List be something >that we could go to to check when we want to, or >wouldit be something that would be posted, say, >weekly, the way Marissa did. The former would, of >course, save clutter on the list. > >Cindy > >--- Gerald Hovas <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > There's currently no way to know that a book has > > been kicked back to the > > Step 1 page by Gustavo other than by opening each > > book's download page and > > checking the comment history. > > > > No, submitters are not notified via e-mail, but > > there has been some requests > > by volunteers to upgrade the system to notify the > > validator via e-mail. The > > idea is not only a good one because it would have a > > high impact on > > volunteers, but because it is also a relatively > > small effort. I have it > > second on my list of upgrades volunteers would like > > to see made to the > > system. > > > > The only upgrade I have listed above notifying > > validators when books are > > kicked back is automating Marissa's list so the list > > of books in the admin > > queue and the list of books out for validation are > > always up to date. In my > > opinion, automating Marissa's List would have a > > higher impact, and it > > requires less effort to implement, so I have it at > > number 1. > > > > Gerald > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Cindy > > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:07 PM > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: April 28: books added > > to collection > > > > That's a question that maybe Jake or Gerald can > > figure > > out how to get that. The only way I can think of > > would > > be to click on each title and read the messages. I > > keep meaning to check to see if any of my valiations > > have been returned but I haven't ye. > > > > The submitter will, I think, get a notice--but maybe > > not. Validators don't. That's probably why some > > books > > sit there for a long time. The validator thinks the > > book is awaiting approval and it's been returned. > > > > Do you want to know about one of your books, or just > > to know in general. I can post a list of the books > > that are on the page one download list, I think, and > > that might help you to see if a particular book has > > been > > returned. > > > > I agree that knowledge would be very helpful. The > > only > > reason for my posting the additions list is because > > the Marissa list, which consists of the download > > page, > > books being validated, and books on the admin queue > > comes out so seldom, and the New Books list is > > updated > > a day or two late, and people have been wanting to > > know what's new, and where the books they've worked > > on, are sooner than the info is otherwise posted. > > smile > > > > Cindy > > > > --- tom hawkins <tjhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Hi Cindy, Is it possible to get a list of books > > > returned to the step-one > > > page by Gustavo? Knowing that he will get through > > > all of the admin Q, the > > > returned books announcement would be more helpful. > > > > > Thank you for all your > > > efforts on our behalf, it is most appreciated!Tom > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > > > <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 5:58 PM > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] April 28: books added to > > > collection > > > > > > > > > > In alphabetical order: > > > > > > > > A Passionate Marriage y Michelle Reid > > > > All about Love: New Visions by bell hooks > > > > Area 51: Legend by Robert Doherty > > > > Baby Blues and Wedding Bells by Patricia McLinn > > > > Bed-Knob and Broomstick by Mary Norton > > > > Blooming All Over by Judith Arnold > > > > From The Listening Hills by Louis L'Amour > > > > Happiness Is A Choice: Symptoms, Causes, and > > Cures > > > of > > > > Depression by Paul Meier, Frank Minirth > > > > Heritage by Lewis Orde > > > > Hot Flash Holidays (Book 3) by Nancy Thayer > > > > I Am the Darker Brother: An Anthology of Modern > > > Poems > > > > by African Americans (Revised Edition) by Arnold > > > > Adoff (editor) > > > > Language: English > > > > Mr. Monk Goes to the Firehouse by Lee Goldberg > > > > Navy Husband by Debbie MacOmber > > > > Navy Woman by Debbie MacOmber > > > > Night on the Flint River: Accidental Journey in > > > > Knowing God by Roberta C. Bondi > > > > Pearl in the Mist by V. C. Andrews > > > > Puritanism and the American Experience by > > Michael > > > > McGiffert (editor) > > > > Qualitative Research in Education: Focus and > > > Methods > > > > by Rodman B. Webb, Robert R. Sherman > > > > Strong Woman: Unshrouding the Secrets of the > > Soul > > > by > > > > M. Sue Benford > > > > That Anvil of Our Souls: A Novel of the Monitor > > > and > > > > the Merrimack by David Poyer > > > > The Bicycle Man by Allen Say > > > > The Father Factor by Lilian Darcy > > > > The Finishing School by Michele Martinez > > > > The Isaiah Effect : Decoding the Lost Science of > > > > Prayer and Prophecy by Gregg Braden > > > > The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight: The Fate of > > > the > > > > World and What We Can Do Before It's Too Late by > > > Thom > > > > Hartmann > > > > The Lost Daughters of China: Abandoned Girls, > > > Their > > > > Journey to America, and the Search for a Missing > > > Past > > > > by Karin Evans > > > > The New England Puritans by Sydney V. 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