This discussion also reminds me, to my great shame, that I think I still have a few knitting books that Shelley mailed to me (almost 3 years ago) that I haven't finished. I will really try to finish those soon. They aren't long, and they're loom knitting books. I think I know where they are too. And then I can mail them back to Shelley. I am really sorry for taking so long! -- Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading: Heads You Lose by Lisa Lutz See everything I've read this year at: www.michiganrxtech.com/books.html