[bksvol-discuss] Re: Keeping The List Open To Searches
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:27:42 -0700 (PDT)
I agree. And it doesn't seem all that easy to find one's name. When I did a
simply search using only my name I only found two items on the first list of
100 of Google's list. People pointed out that if I added my email address or a
particular topic or added bookshare I could find more, but that means that
someone would have to be looking specifically for me, not finding me by random.
G.Cindy
***WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE COLLECTION)IS
AVAILABLE AT
http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm
http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm
A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT
http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/scanning.html
Jake's site for useful links: http://www.jbrownell.com/bkslinks.html
--- On Tue, 7/1/08, EVAN REESE <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: EVAN REESE <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Keeping The List Open To Searches
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:35 PM
> I may be in the minority as well, but I agree with you.
> I'm not overly
> concerned that the Bookshare lists are publicly searchable,
> and I hadn't
> thought of some of the reasons you have given here why it
> might be a good
> thing that they are. I do like the fact that email
> addresses are blocked
> out, so I'm fine with the way things are set up right
> now.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:22 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Keeping The List Open To Searches
>
>
> > Hi, everyone. I have been reading the posts on this
> list about how and
> > by whom the volunteers' list can be accessed. Some
> of you are asking
> > Bookshare to close the list to searches, and I respect
> your feelings.
> > I'd like to understand what types of information
> you'd like to be kept
> > private since Freelists is already marking out your
> email address when
> > people do a search. Maybe that would help me
> understand your position
> > better.
> >
> > I think I am in the minority for now, and I'd like
> to share why I like
> > having our list archives open to everyone. I hope that
> our list stays
> > open for three reasons. The first is that people who
> are in the
> > process of learning about scanning can access ideas
> from this list
> > while they're in the planning stage of choosing
> OCR software and
> > buying a scanner. We don't usually get a person
> signed up to this list
> > until after the deed is done, and that means we get a
> lot of people
> > with poor tools as they begin. Due to the cost of the
> software,
> > they're often locked into a product that
> doesn't suit them and makes
> > scanning harder. Since our list archive is open, they
> can use Google
> > to find out which scanning software works best and get
> real opinions
> > instead of sales hype.
> >
> > The second advantage of having an open list is that
> using Google gives
> > me more specific search results if I'm trying to
> learn about a topic.
> > The Freelists search feature isn't very specific
> and gives me all
> > kinds of results that I don't need. With Google, I
> can do a search for
> > a phrase containing scanner recommendation or
> suggestion but not
> > Opticbook. This would quickly let me see scanner
> recommendations for
> > brands of scanners other than the OpticBook. I can do
> this search from
> > the computer store while I'm looking at scanners.
> I can even do this
> > search on my cell phone while riding to the store.
> This would be
> > impossible to do if the list were closed. Being able
> to do this search
> > would save the entire list from getting another round
> of "which
> > scanner should I buy." That's a thread that
> already pops up once a
> > month or so.
> >
> > The third reason I think the list should stay open is
> that closing it
> > won't actually protect anyone's privacy.
> Having a closed or private
> > list doesn't make it safer but does give its
> members a false sense of
> > security. Email itself isn't very secure since all
> a person would
> > have to do is forward a list member's email to
> someone else or even
> > paste its contents onto a website. After that, all
> bets are off.
> > Someone from the Bookshare Discuss list proved that
> last summer when
> > she posted one of my messages from here to a list
> where we had been
> > asked not to post about a certain topic. She used her
> email client's
> > forward message button, and my post hit that list ten
> seconds later
> > with my email address and Skype name in full view. I
> had to deal with
> > the fall-out of that choice for weeks. Having this
> list closed to
> > searching wouldn't have changed the situation at
> all except for one
> > thing. I was about to be banned from that list, but I
> asked the
> > moderator to search our archives so I could prove that
> my message was
> > written in response to a question on this list and
> that it was never
> > intended for anyone on her list. Because she was able
> to see that my
> > email had been posted without my consent, I was not
> banned.
> >
> > Right now, Freelists marks out your email address for
> searches of the
> > archives. It even filters out email addresses in your
> signature too.
> > So only your name and what you write about are visible
> in searches. I
> > think it's unwise to put your phone number or
> mailing address at the
> > bottom of messages going to lists. That's not
> because of the open or
> > closed list deal. It's because anyone on the list
> can post or forward
> > that information anywhere he or she wishes with just
> one keystroke.
> >
> > So for these reasons, I hope Bookshare will leave the
> list as it has
> > been for the past several years. I think it will help
> our community as
> > a whole as well as serving the needs of its members.
> >
> > --
> > Monica Willyard
> > Visit my blog at http://www.scannersguild.com
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