After I hit Send, I wondered--if they scan somewht scrambled, and tabs and spaces disappear, how can we line them up properly? OF do we just leave them as they are? Cindy --- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jamie, > > An upgrade to include table navigation was made back > in late 2005. The processing tools should pick upRTF > tables and handle them appropriately. So no nothing > special should be required. > > Jake > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jamie Yates > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:09 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: James' book missing > material > > > I was wondering if there are tables in a book, how > to make those readable for brf and daisy? > > Is it acceptable to leave them in table format, or > does something special need to be done to them? > > Jamie > > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hi, > I am going to release it tonight. There is also > a huge table of data in the > front that is very hard to read. If anyone > sighted is interested in > validating it, the book is What Color Is Your > Parachute, 2006 Edition. > > Jim > > James D Homme, > Usability Engineering > Highmark Inc. > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > 412-544-8177 > > "If you think you can, or if you think you > can't, you are right." > > > > > "Grandma Cindy" > oo.com> To > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > bksvol-discuss-bo cc > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > g Subject > [bksvol-discuss] James' book > missing material > 04/10/2007 06:07 > PM > > > Please respond to > bksvol-discuss@fr > eelists.org > > > > > > > What is the book, James? Perhaps one of us can > obtain > it and provide you with the missing pages. If > you can > provide the ISBN number as well as the title I > can > perhaps get the exact copy. > > Cindy > > --- james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > Hi, > > When I validate, I try to read the entire > book. It > > helps if I am interested > > in the book. > > > > I have a related question. When someone sends > back a > > book, can they > > partially validate it and have it go back to > step > > one for someone else to > > look at? I'm asking because I can tell that a > book I > > got definitely has > > some missing material, but I don't want to > reject it > > because it is an > > otherwise very clean book. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Jim > > > > > > James D Homme, > > Usability Engineering > > Highmark Inc. > > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > 412-544-8177 > > > > "If you think you can, or if you think you > can't, > > you are right." > > > > > > > > > > > > "Grandma Cindy" > > > > > > > oo.com> > > To > > Sent by: > > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > bksvol-discuss-bo > > cc > > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > g > > Subject > > > > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Validating the > > Validator > > > > 04/09/2007 09:04 > > > > PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > bksvol-discuss@fr > > > > eelists.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had the impression from various posts that > at > > least > > some of the blind volunteers do get the book > and > > listen or follow in braille as they validate. > > Perhaps > > I made a wrong assumption. > > > > But yes, if one can't get the book and can't, > from > > the > > reading of the downloaded file, figure out the > word > > that's missing from the sentence, and there > are a > > lot > > of them, then, as someone else suggested, the > book > > should either be released for someone sighted > to do, > > preferably in my opinion, or be rejected. I > know we > > have some peopple on this list who are > disabled in a > > way that qualifies them but are sighted, and > people > > who have partial sight. But a lot of the time, > if > > the > > validator like Jim is reading the book file, > the > > wrong > > or missing word is obvious and can be filled > in. The > > book I'm doing now is like that. I don't > really need > > the physical book, though I do have it. In a > > sentence > > I read last night the letter m stood for him, > not > > in--it was obvious from the context. And an > earlier > > sentence that contained the word rolling > didn't make > > sense to me, so I checked and it was supposed > to be > > strolling. If I'd left the people rolling > along the > > beach instead of strolling along the beach it > > probably > > wouldn't have made too much difference. smile > > > > It may be that a person who was an English or > > history > > major and/or done a lot of general reading is > more > > attuned to sentences and sentence structure > than, > > for > > example, a person whose background is in math > or > > sciences; in that case perhaps filling in > words > > based > > on context or phraseolog wouldn't be as easy > and the > > book should be released. > > > > Cindy > > > > > > > > --- Jamie Yates wrote: > > > > > Cindy, when you are validating a book that > is > > > missing > > > words in the book, and you can't get a > physical > > book > > > to look and see what the missing words are, > would > > > the > > > proper step be to reject the book? > > > > > > It would be difficult for bookshare > volunteers who > > > aren't sighted to compare the scanned text > to a > > > physical book unless they scanned the page > in > > > question, and if they were going to do that, > they > > > might as well just rescan the book, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jamie in Michigan > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > Email > > to > > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject > > > line. 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