[bksvol-discuss] Re: James' book missing material

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:32:23 -0700 (PDT)

After I hit Send, I wondered--if they scan somewht
scrambled, and tabs and spaces disappear, how can we
line them up properly? OF do we just leave them as
they are?

Cindy

--- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Jamie,
> 
> An upgrade to include table navigation was made back
> in late 2005. The processing tools should pick upRTF
> tables and handle them appropriately. So no nothing
> special should be required.
> 
> Jake
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Jamie Yates 
>   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:09 AM
>   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: James' book missing
> material
> 
> 
>   I was wondering if there are tables in a book, how
> to make those readable for brf and daisy?
> 
>   Is it acceptable to leave them in table format, or
> does something special need to be done to them?
> 
>   Jamie
> 
>   james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>     Hi,
>     I am going to release it tonight. There is also
> a huge table of data in the
>     front that is very hard to read. If anyone
> sighted is interested in
>     validating it, the book is What Color Is Your
> Parachute, 2006 Edition.
> 
>     Jim
> 
>     James D Homme,
>     Usability Engineering
>     Highmark Inc.
>     james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>     412-544-8177
> 
>     "If you think you can, or if you think you
> can't, you are right."
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     "Grandma Cindy" 
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>     missing material 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
>     What is the book, James? Perhaps one of us can
> obtain
>     it and provide you with the missing pages. If
> you can
>     provide the ISBN number as well as the title I
> can
>     perhaps get the exact copy.
> 
>     Cindy
> 
>     --- james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
>     > Hi,
>     > When I validate, I try to read the entire
> book. It
>     > helps if I am interested
>     > in the book.
>     >
>     > I have a related question. When someone sends
> back a
>     > book, can they
>     > partially validate it and have it go back to
> step
>     > one for someone else to
>     > look at? I'm asking because I can tell that a
> book I
>     > got definitely has
>     > some missing material, but I don't want to
> reject it
>     > because it is an
>     > otherwise very clean book.
>     >
>     > Thanks.
>     >
>     > Jim
>     >
>     >
>     > James D Homme,
>     > Usability Engineering
>     > Highmark Inc.
>     > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > 412-544-8177
>     >
>     > "If you think you can, or if you think you
> can't,
>     > you are right."
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > "Grandma Cindy"
>     >
>     > >
>     > oo.com>
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>     > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Validating the
>     > Validator
>     >
>     > 04/09/2007 09:04
>     >
>     > PM
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Please respond to
>     >
>     > bksvol-discuss@fr
>     >
>     > eelists.org
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > I had the impression from various posts that
> at
>     > least
>     > some of the blind volunteers do get the book
> and
>     > listen or follow in braille as they validate.
>     > Perhaps
>     > I made a wrong assumption.
>     >
>     > But yes, if one can't get the book and can't,
> from
>     > the
>     > reading of the downloaded file, figure out the
> word
>     > that's missing from the sentence, and there
> are a
>     > lot
>     > of them, then, as someone else suggested, the
> book
>     > should either be released for someone sighted
> to do,
>     > preferably in my opinion, or be rejected. I
> know we
>     > have some peopple on this list who are
> disabled in a
>     > way that qualifies them but are sighted, and
> people
>     > who have partial sight. But a lot of the time,
> if
>     > the
>     > validator like Jim is reading the book file,
> the
>     > wrong
>     > or missing word is obvious and can be filled
> in. The
>     > book I'm doing now is like that. I don't
> really need
>     > the physical book, though I do have it. In a
>     > sentence
>     > I read last night the letter m stood for him,
> not
>     > in--it was obvious from the context. And an
> earlier
>     > sentence that contained the word rolling
> didn't make
>     > sense to me, so I checked and it was supposed
> to be
>     > strolling. If I'd left the people rolling
> along the
>     > beach instead of strolling along the beach it
>     > probably
>     > wouldn't have made too much difference. smile
>     >
>     > It may be that a person who was an English or
>     > history
>     > major and/or done a lot of general reading is
> more
>     > attuned to sentences and sentence structure
> than,
>     > for
>     > example, a person whose background is in math
> or
>     > sciences; in that case perhaps filling in
> words
>     > based
>     > on context or phraseolog wouldn't be as easy
> and the
>     > book should be released.
>     >
>     > Cindy
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --- Jamie Yates wrote:
>     >
>     > > Cindy, when you are validating a book that
> is
>     > > missing
>     > > words in the book, and you can't get a
> physical
>     > book
>     > > to look and see what the missing words are,
> would
>     > > the
>     > > proper step be to reject the book?
>     > >
>     > > It would be difficult for bookshare
> volunteers who
>     > > aren't sighted to compare the scanned text
> to a
>     > > physical book unless they scanned the page
> in
>     > > question, and if they were going to do that,
> they
>     > > might as well just rescan the book, right?
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > Jamie in Michigan
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