[bksvol-discuss] Re: James' book missing material

  • From: "Mike and Lori Castner" <mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:34:31 -0700

Hi Jamie,
You should leve the tables in format, but it would help if you could make a 
note which would give basic information, such as what the column headings are.  
I hope this helps.
Mike
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jamie Yates 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:09 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: James' book missing material


  I was wondering if there are tables in a book, how to make those readable for 
brf and daisy?

  Is it acceptable to leave them in table format, or does something special 
need to be done to them?

  Jamie

  james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
    Hi,
    I am going to release it tonight. There is also a huge table of data in the
    front that is very hard to read. If anyone sighted is interested in
    validating it, the book is What Color Is Your Parachute, 2006 Edition.

    Jim

    James D Homme,
    Usability Engineering
    Highmark Inc.
    james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
    412-544-8177

    "If you think you can, or if you think you can't, you are right."




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    What is the book, James? Perhaps one of us can obtain
    it and provide you with the missing pages. If you can
    provide the ISBN number as well as the title I can
    perhaps get the exact copy.

    Cindy

    --- james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

    > Hi,
    > When I validate, I try to read the entire book. It
    > helps if I am interested
    > in the book.
    >
    > I have a related question. When someone sends back a
    > book, can they
    > partially validate it and have it go back to step
    > one for someone else to
    > look at? I'm asking because I can tell that a book I
    > got definitely has
    > some missing material, but I don't want to reject it
    > because it is an
    > otherwise very clean book.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Jim
    >
    >
    > James D Homme,
    > Usability Engineering
    > Highmark Inc.
    > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
    > 412-544-8177
    >
    > "If you think you can, or if you think you can't,
    > you are right."
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "Grandma Cindy"
    >
    > >
    > oo.com>
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    > Validator
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    > 04/09/2007 09:04
    >
    > PM
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Please respond to
    >
    > bksvol-discuss@fr
    >
    > eelists.org
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I had the impression from various posts that at
    > least
    > some of the blind volunteers do get the book and
    > listen or follow in braille as they validate.
    > Perhaps
    > I made a wrong assumption.
    >
    > But yes, if one can't get the book and can't, from
    > the
    > reading of the downloaded file, figure out the word
    > that's missing from the sentence, and there are a
    > lot
    > of them, then, as someone else suggested, the book
    > should either be released for someone sighted to do,
    > preferably in my opinion, or be rejected. I know we
    > have some peopple on this list who are disabled in a
    > way that qualifies them but are sighted, and people
    > who have partial sight. But a lot of the time, if
    > the
    > validator like Jim is reading the book file, the
    > wrong
    > or missing word is obvious and can be filled in. The
    > book I'm doing now is like that. I don't really need
    > the physical book, though I do have it. In a
    > sentence
    > I read last night the letter m stood for him, not
    > in--it was obvious from the context. And an earlier
    > sentence that contained the word rolling didn't make
    > sense to me, so I checked and it was supposed to be
    > strolling. If I'd left the people rolling along the
    > beach instead of strolling along the beach it
    > probably
    > wouldn't have made too much difference. smile
    >
    > It may be that a person who was an English or
    > history
    > major and/or done a lot of general reading is more
    > attuned to sentences and sentence structure than,
    > for
    > example, a person whose background is in math or
    > sciences; in that case perhaps filling in words
    > based
    > on context or phraseolog wouldn't be as easy and the
    > book should be released.
    >
    > Cindy
    >
    >
    >
    > --- Jamie Yates wrote:
    >
    > > Cindy, when you are validating a book that is
    > > missing
    > > words in the book, and you can't get a physical
    > book
    > > to look and see what the missing words are, would
    > > the
    > > proper step be to reject the book?
    > >
    > > It would be difficult for bookshare volunteers who
    > > aren't sighted to compare the scanned text to a
    > > physical book unless they scanned the page in
    > > question, and if they were going to do that, they
    > > might as well just rescan the book, right?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Jamie in Michigan
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