[bksvol-discuss] Re: Image Descriptions
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:07:07 -0700
Hi Chanelle,
The decision about whether image descriptions would significantly improve
the book is up to you. I find that some images/pictures/maps, are simply eye
candy, while others are very helpful to understanding the book. For me, I'd
make my decision based upon whether or not the book was completely
understandable to me without image descriptions. If it is, happy
proofreading! If not, perhaps you could colaberate with a sighted
proofreader who could get a copy of the book and provide descriptions of the
images in it for you to insert, rather than releasing the book altogether,
thus returning it to the beginning of the proofreading process for a new
proofreader.
Just my thoughts.
Mayrie
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chanelle Allen
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 1:40 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Image Descriptions
I have a similar question. What if a scanner did not include image
descriptions? The synopsis indicates that there are images taken from a
movie, and the table of contents lists maps. If the scanner of the book that
I checked out is not able to describe images, should I release the book in
order for a sighted proofreader to work on it?
Chanelle
From: Mayrie ReNae <mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 3:25 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Image Descriptions
Hi Lori,
Descriptions of images should be included any time you are able and feel
like describing them!
We can't include the images at this time, but can definitely include the
descriptions of them!
I'm sorry your question didn't get answered in a satisfactory way the first
time that you asked.
Please, ask again if I've been unclear here.
Also, the format for image descriptions is something like this:
[Image removed: Picture of a dog licking a child's ice cream cone.]
The description will obviously be different if you are describing something
like a chart, or graph, but the format is the same. Another example:
[Image removed: Chart demonstrating the life cycle of a butterfly.]
There is a lot of room for alteration, but I think you get the idea.
Sorry again that you didn't get the right answer the first time that you
asked!
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lori kaltenbronn
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:36 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Image Descriptions
I'm a new scanner and I'm confused about the discussion of image
descriptions. When I asked about adding image descriptions, I was told not
to include them because the images couldn't be "handled" at this time.
Please explain when image descriptions should be included.
Thanks
Lori
On May 2, 2012 2:18 PM, "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Tracy,
I understand your frustration!
There are circumstances, in addition to personal life events, when a book
will be checked out for months where there is nothing the proofreader can do
to speed up the proofreading. I just had three books that I had checked out
for months, two of them quite short. One of them had problems with the
scan. It is missing just one page. I could just reject it, but the person
who scanned it promised me that they will get the page. They haven't yet.
Other volunteers have tried to get the book through library loans, and no
one can find it, and it's too expensive to buy a copy on ebay, amazon or
abebooks, and no one has a sneak peak of it.
It's very frustrating, as the scanner did an excellent job on this book
except for the missing page, but if they don't get the page soon (I've been
waiting months, as I said), I'm going to end up rejecting the book. It's
already been returned to checkout by several proofreaders, so I'm the end of
the line for it.
I also had several books checked out to proofread where I was waiting for
other volunteers to get copies of the books from their interlibrary loan
programs so we can do image descriptions, as the person who scanned the book
really would like them described for the children who will read them. The
books just came in for the other volunteers who are helping me. In one case
it took almost four months for them to get the books through their
interlibrary loan services. Sometimes it takes even longer! So all I can do
is wait.
I send an email to the scanner when this sort of thing is going on, so they
know what is happening with their book.
I know there are circumstances where people seem to just sit on books,
though, and I sure wish they wouldn't! It's terribly frustrating to have a
book disappear into a black hole! smile.
Judy
On 5/2/2012 11:36 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
The big problem I see with keeping books for a long time is that the
submitter has probably returned the book to the library, or sold it, or
lost it, so doesn't have a way to answer questions about it.
Tracy
The big problem I see about keeping books for a year, is that the
submitter
may need those credits for a subscription.
Sue S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mayrie ReNae
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:26 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Poseidon's Gold
Hi Tracy,
As I am a guilty party, having renewed one of the books that I currently
have checked out for a year, I will tell you why I at least am doing what
I'm doing.
The book that I have checked out needs image descriptions if it is to be
used properly, which I can and am providing. Unfortunately, because I'm
working and in poor health, I don't get to my volunteering as regularly or
for as large of chunks of time as I'd like.
So, I just hope that folks will be patient with me, and appreciate the
book
once I finish with it.
I agree with you, by the way, I've had this book for waaaay too long.
Thanks for the kick in the butt. In my case, it's warranted. fifteen
minutes of work three days a week would make a huge difference, and I
intend
to give the book that on the weekends, starting this weekend.
I won't presume to speak for anyone else, but I am glad for your reminder
that I personally need to try harder, and that I can indeed do that.
It'll feel great to finish the book that I've been so lovingly creeping my
way through.
Mayrie
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:04 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Poseidon's Gold
Last November, I submitted Poseidon's Gold, a Marcus Didius Falco mystery.
I read it, spell-checked it, fixed the chapter headings and the page
numbers--all the stuff I usually do. I think someone could have
jiffy-proofed it, and it would have been fine.
It's been checked out since then, almost all the time, but it still hasn't
made it to the collection. What's the hold up?
Tangentially, I really do not understand why someone faithfully renews a
book, sometimes for a whole year, and then lets it go. When I grab a
book,
it's done in about 3 weeks, usually, though I just had one that took
7 weeks.
Are people just hanging on to things, hoping to get to it, but never
actually making it that far? It baffles me.
Tracy
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