[bksvol-discuss] Re: I'm not happy

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:55:32 -0700 (PDT)

Yes, that's the wonderful new thing!! Whoever looks at the download list after 
a book is submitted or uploaded otherwise? smile

Cindy

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I'm not happy
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:29 AM
> I have had one book I validated returned to the download
> list now. I 
> was informed of that fact by email from Bookshare. I
> quickly went to 
> the download list and checked it to find a note from Carrie
> in the 
> comment history explaining the problem. I downloaded it
> again and made 
> the simple correction and uploaded it again. The point is
> that I did 
> not have to check the download list to find out that it had
> been 
> returned there. Bookshare informed me by email.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 2:36 am
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] I'm not happy
> 
> I think, from looking at books that have been returned to
> page one, and 
> especially now that books with minor errors will be
> returned with the 
> validator's corrections intact, that the kinds of
> errors meant that 
> submitter might be able to fix tht validator cannot are
> things like 
> Sue's  blank page and very often, lack of copyright
> information, 
> misspellings of title or author, missing pages, usually
> only one. In 
> those kind of cases, the validator would have done the main
> work of 
> validation but, not having the book, as the submitter did,
> would not 
> necessarily notice that a page is missing (though
> admittedly if he/she 
> had actually read the book while validating or did a final
> pagination 
> check or that the copyright info was wrong. Bookshare's
> assumption 
> would be that the original submitter can get the book again
> and provide 
> that information--correct that error--but the validator
> should get 
> validation credit. The submitter would still get the
> submission credit.
> 
> Perhaps some of you who write very well, e.g., Lissi,
> Monica, etc., can 
> write a clearer explanation of part of the newsletter and
> Pavi can add 
> it and send out a revision.
> 
> Note that the newsletter was sent to all volunteers (I
> think). Those of 
> us who subscribe to the volunteer email list write to each
> other when a 
> page is garbled or missing or the copyright info is not
> readable in the 
> scan or is missing, but the ones not on the list don't.
> And I don't 
> think anyone, submitter or validator, checks the download
> list 
> regularly to see if a book  has been sent back to it, so I
> was *really* 
> happy to see that both will be notified if a book is sent
> back for a 
> correction. smile
> 
> Cindy
> 
> 
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > I'm going to paste here a section from the
> latest
> > volunteer
> > > newsletter with wich I am not very happy.
> > >
> > > from now on books will be returned to the
> download
> > list with a "Hold for
> > > Validator or Submitter". Depending on the
> nature
> > of the correction, and/or
> > > who is best able to make the correction, either
> the
> > submitter or the
> > > validator will re-upload the book. If re-edits
> are
> > uploaded by the
> > > submitter, either the submitter or the validator
> > should write to us
> > > requesting that validation credits be transferred
> from
> > the submitter to
> > > the
> > > appropriate validator. We will make the transfer
> > accordingly.
> > >
> > > Uh, if a validator hasn't done a job complete
> > enough for a book to
> > > be included in the bookshare collection, and the
> > submitter makes
> > > corrections
> > > that a validator should have made, that validator
> > should not get credit.
> > > The validator should have contacted the submitter
> > either directly or via
> > > bookshare staff before uploading to fix things
> that
> > need fixing. What's
> > > the
> > > deal with giving people credit for work not done?
> > >
> > > These are just my opinions, but as a submitter, I
> > don't have any
> > > intention of fixing errors in a book that I
> submit if
> > the validator is
> > > going
> > > to get credit for not having done the work.
> > >
> > > Mayrie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
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