[bksvol-discuss] Re: I'm not happy

  • From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:58:02 -0500

Yes, that is a new policy, Roger.  Notices are sent to the validator 
automatically if a book is returned.

Sue S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:29 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I'm not happy


I have had one book I validated returned to the download list now. I
was informed of that fact by email from Bookshare. I quickly went to
the download list and checked it to find a note from Carrie in the
comment history explaining the problem. I downloaded it again and made
the simple correction and uploaded it again. The point is that I did
not have to check the download list to find out that it had been
returned there. Bookshare informed me by email.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 2:36 am
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] I'm not happy

I think, from looking at books that have been returned to page one, and
especially now that books with minor errors will be returned with the
validator's corrections intact, that the kinds of errors meant that
submitter might be able to fix tht validator cannot are things like
Sue's  blank page and very often, lack of copyright information,
misspellings of title or author, missing pages, usually only one. In
those kind of cases, the validator would have done the main work of
validation but, not having the book, as the submitter did, would not
necessarily notice that a page is missing (though admittedly if he/she
had actually read the book while validating or did a final pagination
check or that the copyright info was wrong. Bookshare's assumption
would be that the original submitter can get the book again and provide
that information--correct that error--but the validator should get
validation credit. The submitter would still get the submission credit.

Perhaps some of you who write very well, e.g., Lissi, Monica, etc., can
write a clearer explanation of part of the newsletter and Pavi can add
it and send out a revision.

Note that the newsletter was sent to all volunteers (I think). Those of
us who subscribe to the volunteer email list write to each other when a
page is garbled or missing or the copyright info is not readable in the
scan or is missing, but the ones not on the list don't. And I don't
think anyone, submitter or validator, checks the download list
regularly to see if a book  has been sent back to it, so I was *really*
happy to see that both will be notified if a book is sent back for a
correction. smile

Cindy


> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I'm going to paste here a section from the latest
> volunteer
> > newsletter with wich I am not very happy.
> >
> > from now on books will be returned to the download
> list with a "Hold for
> > Validator or Submitter". Depending on the nature
> of the correction, and/or
> > who is best able to make the correction, either the
> submitter or the
> > validator will re-upload the book. If re-edits are
> uploaded by the
> > submitter, either the submitter or the validator
> should write to us
> > requesting that validation credits be transferred from
> the submitter to
> > the
> > appropriate validator. We will make the transfer
> accordingly.
> >
> > Uh, if a validator hasn't done a job complete
> enough for a book to
> > be included in the bookshare collection, and the
> submitter makes
> > corrections
> > that a validator should have made, that validator
> should not get credit.
> > The validator should have contacted the submitter
> either directly or via
> > bookshare staff before uploading to fix things that
> need fixing. What's
> > the
> > deal with giving people credit for work not done?
> >
> > These are just my opinions, but as a submitter, I
> don't have any
> > intention of fixing errors in a book that I submit if
> the validator is
> > going
> > to get credit for not having done the work.
> >
> > Mayrie
> >
> >
> >
> >



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