[bksvol-discuss] Re: I think I know the answer to this...

  • From: "Katie Star" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 22:19:14 -0700

Hi Evan, 

I will loudly echo your feelings here. I can maybe see the index but the
rest? But then again I am just a voice in the wilderness;) 



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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:07 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I think I know the answer to this...

Sorry, but to me, that is way too much omission.  Table of contents?  Not 
putting that in is inconceivable to me.  I can understand the index being 
left out, although the last two books I scanned had indexes, and I took the 
trouble to fix the first one up, and I will soon be fixing up the other, but

contents, foreword, preface, etc. may not be technically core content, but 
they aren't even usually that long.

I want to try to nip this kind of thinking in the bud if I can, because the 
last thing I want to see on Bookshare is books turning up without contents, 
and other preliminary material, but especially without contents.  I hope, as

already stated with the possible exception of the index, that we aren't 
going to start seeing stripped-down versions of books here.  I know that 
this may take extra time for some people who want to be conscientious and 
turn in a quality addition to the collection.  This is especially true if a 
book has a lot of endnotes or reference notes.  A recent book I scanned had 
a couple hundred of them.  That's one of the things that sometimes 
disappoints me about some books that NLS puts out.  When I hear something 
like 'The forty pages of reference notes in the print edition have been 
omitted in this recording.', I feel cheated.  Call me a nerd if you want to,

but I actually read those things.  That's a good source of future reading 
material for me, and I want to keep it in Bookshare books.

But the main impetus to writing this was the idea put forth here that a 
table of contents could be omitted because it is not core content.  I hope 
Gustavo steps on this one hard.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:15 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I think I know the answer to this...


> You would let a book in if it were missing its preface, introduction and 
> endnotes but contained the text and the appropriate title page copyright 
> info?  Interesting.
>
> E.
>
>
> At 11:39 PM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
>
>>Hi Lea,
>>
>>This may be surprising, but since the end notes and indices are not 'core 
>>content', you can submit the book as is.  I have dropped appendices or 
>>indices a few times, when they were hopelessly muddled.  I would suggest 
>>writing a note to Gustavo in the comment section when you upload the book 
>>about the missing 30 pages, since he may overrule me.
>>
>>This of course begs the question: what exactly is the 'core content' of a 
>>book?  I believe it's the center core of the book, not the table of 
>>contents, the foreword, the introduction, the afterword, glossary, 
>>appendices, indices, etc, etc, etc.  Bookshare requires the title and 
>>copyright pages and the core content, but I believe that's all.  As I said

>>though, Gustavo may have a different opinion, so if you want to make 
>>absolutely sure, you could write him, using the email address in the To 
>>section of this email.
>>
>>HTH, Carrie
>>
>>Pascha Lea <pascha2u@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I've started validating a text book, and I've just noticed that all of the

>>end-notes and indexes aren't scanned. I have the hard-copy of the book, so

>>I know there about 30 pages of this stuff missing. As I don't have access 
>>to a scanner, my first reaction would be to reject this as an incomplete 
>>book. My question is - would not having the end-notes and indexes make 
>>this book 'incomplete'?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Lea
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