Hi Evan, I will loudly echo your feelings here. I can maybe see the index but the rest? But then again I am just a voice in the wilderness;) Katie Hill Expand your wealth at: www.838gold.com "Come to the edge" "We can't; we will fall" "Come to the edge" "We can't; We're afraid" "Come to the edge" And they came. And he pushed them. And they flew. - Anonomous -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:07 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I think I know the answer to this... Sorry, but to me, that is way too much omission. Table of contents? Not putting that in is inconceivable to me. I can understand the index being left out, although the last two books I scanned had indexes, and I took the trouble to fix the first one up, and I will soon be fixing up the other, but contents, foreword, preface, etc. may not be technically core content, but they aren't even usually that long. I want to try to nip this kind of thinking in the bud if I can, because the last thing I want to see on Bookshare is books turning up without contents, and other preliminary material, but especially without contents. I hope, as already stated with the possible exception of the index, that we aren't going to start seeing stripped-down versions of books here. I know that this may take extra time for some people who want to be conscientious and turn in a quality addition to the collection. This is especially true if a book has a lot of endnotes or reference notes. A recent book I scanned had a couple hundred of them. That's one of the things that sometimes disappoints me about some books that NLS puts out. When I hear something like 'The forty pages of reference notes in the print edition have been omitted in this recording.', I feel cheated. Call me a nerd if you want to, but I actually read those things. That's a good source of future reading material for me, and I want to keep it in Bookshare books. But the main impetus to writing this was the idea put forth here that a table of contents could be omitted because it is not core content. I hope Gustavo steps on this one hard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:15 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I think I know the answer to this... > You would let a book in if it were missing its preface, introduction and > endnotes but contained the text and the appropriate title page copyright > info? Interesting. > > E. > > > At 11:39 PM 8/6/2006, you wrote: > >>Hi Lea, >> >>This may be surprising, but since the end notes and indices are not 'core >>content', you can submit the book as is. I have dropped appendices or >>indices a few times, when they were hopelessly muddled. I would suggest >>writing a note to Gustavo in the comment section when you upload the book >>about the missing 30 pages, since he may overrule me. >> >>This of course begs the question: what exactly is the 'core content' of a >>book? I believe it's the center core of the book, not the table of >>contents, the foreword, the introduction, the afterword, glossary, >>appendices, indices, etc, etc, etc. Bookshare requires the title and >>copyright pages and the core content, but I believe that's all. As I said >>though, Gustavo may have a different opinion, so if you want to make >>absolutely sure, you could write him, using the email address in the To >>section of this email. >> >>HTH, Carrie >> >>Pascha Lea <pascha2u@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I've started validating a text book, and I've just noticed that all of the >>end-notes and indexes aren't scanned. I have the hard-copy of the book, so >>I know there about 30 pages of this stuff missing. As I don't have access >>to a scanner, my first reaction would be to reject this as an incomplete >>book. My question is - would not having the end-notes and indexes make >>this book 'incomplete'? >> >>Thanks, >>Lea >> >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Everyone is raving about the >><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42297/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/han draisers>all-new >>Yahoo! Mail Beta. >> >> >> >>Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. 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