Jamie its not exactly I can't read it, it's the whole, push the key what the heck's the key you know? Thanks for the help. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamie Yates, CPhT To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I don't know if anyone thinks this is a book or not. Siobhan, you can get the manual at: http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/manuals/v3_manual9491A47O.pdf But it is a pdf file. If you can't read a pdf file, let me know because I can ocr it for you. Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading - Father and Son by Larry Brown