[bksvol-discuss] Re: Hymn books by Robert Morgan
- From: Scott Rains <scottr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 07:23:55 -0700
No, unfortunately Bookshare does not have a way to render musical notation.
That said, progress continues at Benetech's DIAGRAM Center where the goal is to
invent ever-better means of representing graphics in DAISY. Just this Monday
volunteer Calvin Carr met with DIAGRAM's director Carl Rand to start work on
alpha phase testing of a tool for inserting image descriptions into DAISY
format books. More to come.
Scott Rains
Benetech Fellow
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 00:34:20 -0700
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hymn books by Robert Morgan
Hi, Shelley, I don't suppose Bookshare can handle Braille music, can it?
Anyhow, that's a real bear to work with because, as you probably know, Braille
music is not written using a staff. It's a whole new thing if you have to
proofread music. First of all, if you aren't really familiar with Braille music
or know how to write it in (and you probably would have to write it in) then
you're going to do a lot of formatting. I can decipher a melody line and that's
about it. Generally, what is done is that the literary lines are numbered, and
under each literary line, you have the line of music. This applies to the first
verse and chorus, unless the music changes in subsequent verses. Generally, if
you're dealing with a hymn or a folk song, that's how you'd work it if you have
a simple melody line. If you also have piano accompaniment, then you have the
left hand, the right hand, etc. I don't know if there are any volunteers who
are really proficient at reading, let alone writing, Braille music. This sounds
like a real undertaking and I wish you well with it. Regards, Kim.
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That is what I am used too too.
But in a print hymnal it goes.
Verse 1 line 1, Verse 2, line 1, verse 3, line 1, then verse 1, line two,...
Which can be very frustrating. It also has the acutual music notes and lines
and I will be erasing them where they did scan correctly, ahem which was not
often, smile.
I will put a note in the front to the fact that the hymns were reformmated for
accessiblity and the musical notation has been removed.
Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A. CVRT
and Ludden black Labrador Guide Dog.
Diamonds may be a woman's best friend, but a dog is mine.
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Hymn books by Robert Morgan
Hi, Shelley, I think for a Braille reader this would be a nightmare. I'm used
to seeing: verse 1, l. 1, l. 2, l. 3, l. 4. Chorus: l. 1, l. 2, (or however
many there are supposed to be). verse 2: l. 1, l. 2, etc. Regards, Kim Friedman.
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Hymn books by Robert Morgan
Hi everyone,
Got a question,
In the book I am currently scanning, it tells the stories behind famous hymns,
around Christmas, the hymns are written as they would in the hymnal, with 1,
then 2, then 3 then 4 first lines and so on and so forth.
so it would look like this. 1a, 2a, 3a, 4a, 1 b, 2b, 3b, 4b, 1c, 2c, 3c, 4c, ...
Can, I move them into the way that it appears in most Large print hymnals or
Braille hymnals, where it is all of verse one, then verse two, then verse three
and so on and so forth. they way it scanned it would be a Low vision reader's
nightmare trying to read and or scan the words of the song.,
Let me know what you all think. As this will change the formatting of the book
but would make it readable and enjoyable. I can put a scanner's note in the
front to this effect.
Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A. CVRT
and Ludden black Labrador Guide Dog.
Diamonds may be a woman's best friend, but a dog is mine.
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