[bksvol-discuss] Re: Heading Level One
- From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 23:03:00 -0400
Dear Roger and Marty
Roger, I appreciate these clearly expressed essays. Surprisingly, most of their
contents made sense on the first reading and they were so unencumbered with
techno speak that I was able to concentrate on all three of them without having
to take a mental time out. I learned quite a bit from them and will learn more
with additional study. They raised some new questions as well, but I’m very
pleased to have made more progress than I’d hoped for today.
Marty, can you share the tips Mayrie sent you. Mayrie loved the challenge of
discovering ways for blind volunteers to scan and proofread with our various
technologies and she was patient about sharing and explaining her solutions
with us. She was genius cubed, genius times hard work times communication. What
a package. We’ve got some pretty determined scanners and proofers following her
example.
Thanks again to both of you.
Always with love,
Lissi
From: Roger Loran Bailey
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:45 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Heading Level One
The following contains some interesting tips about using ribbons:
Just What You Need to Know
A very basic short tutorial for XP users who are moving to Windows 7
by
Gene Asner
Introduction
this informal short tutorial is based on messages I wrote to e-mail lists. You
will see repetition in the discussion of ribbons which occurs in two separate
messages but I've left the repetition in the material because it may help you
understand points to see both discussions.
The goal of this informal tutorial is to present what a new Windows 7 user, who
is familiar with Windows Xp needs to know to work with Windows 7. Where
possible and where I deemed it desirable, I've presented techniques that are
most similar to those used in XP. Where not possible or where I deemed it not
desirable, I presented or concentrated on other methods. but I gave no
unnecessary information and the other methods are easy to use and learn. You
will likely learn a lot more about Windows 7 over time but this guide will
probably allow you to use Windows 7 with reasonable ease and convenience within
a much shorter time than you may have thought possible.
I hope those who read this material will distribute it widely. I would like it
to become well known and available for download in many places such as from web
sites that present such material for blind computer users.
The tutorial is based on the text of three messages, which I have modified as
desirable for this tutorial. To move from one message to the next, use the
search command and search for the word message, followed by a space then a
number. For example, if you want to move to the third message, search for
message 3
Message 1
Regarding working with My Computer and Windows Explorer, You will find lots of
items that you can ignore and still work with the list of files and folders as
you are used to doing. . As a new user, you don't have to worry about any of
them. If you are in a list of files and folders, you will see that tabbing
moves you through all sorts of items. but the actual list itself, which you
work with in My Computer or Windows Live Mail works the same as in the past.
You may want to learn about certain items you can tab to, such as the search
feature but for now, in the early use and learning stage, you can keep things
simple and just stay in the list. Also, when you work with an open or save as
dialog, in XP, you just shift tabbed once to get to the files and folders list.
In Windows 7, you must shift tab twice. Once on the list, it works as always.
Windows 7 allows you to open programs and other items using similar methods as
in XP but a valuable search field is added to the start menu as another means
of finding and opening items.
If you want to use the all programs menu, open the start menu. You are in a
search field. Up arrow once to all programs.
right arrow once to open the all programs submenu.
down arrow twice. You are now in the main part of the all programs menu and
can move through it using first letter navigation or the up and down arrow
keys.
You can still create short cuts, send short cuts to the desktop and assign
shortcut keys as you can in earlier versions of windows.
But before deciding to what extent you want to do those things, you should
understand and try working with the search field in the start menu.
Once you press the Windows key, you are placed in the search field. type
something you are looking for. You can often type just one word of something
or perhaps even just three or four letters. You will have to experiment. If
you want to find Internet Explorer, just typing inter may well be sufficient.
You will be placed on the first result. You don't have to down arrow to it.
Your screen-reader should automatically read the first result. If it doesn't,
use read current line to have it read. You can press enter to open whatever
result you are on. If you hear Internet Explorer announced after typing inter
just press enter and the program will open. If you down arrow through the
results and find one you want to open, press enter. If you want to close the
search field and list and start over, press escape twice. You will be placed
on the start button. Then open the start menu again.
when using the search field, experiment to see what gives you the best results.
Don't assume typing the first word is the best method to move to something
quickly. If the computer has
Windows Live Mail for example, you can probably cause Windows Live Mail to
appear as the first
result by just typing the word mail. If you think about it, using the word
Windows in the search field is far too broad a term and the word live may also
apply to many programs that may be on your computer in the Windows Live
category of programs. Mail makes the most sense to use in this context and you
will find that out if you experiment with different words in the search field
even if you haven't gone through the thought process I just outlined.
You don't have to worry about the run dialog being any more difficult to use.
To open it, you hold the Windows key and type r, then release both keys. If
you just press the Windows key
and release it, you are in the search field I described earlier and typing
r will do nothing except, perhaps show items that begin with the letter r. Once
you open and try using it, you will find that the run dialog works just as it
works in earlier versions of windows.
If you are a new Windows 7 user, you may find the easiest way to open the shut
down dialog is to press the Windows key, then press escape. You will land on
the start button and you can then use alt f4 to bring up the shut
down dialog.
Or, if you use Windows key m to move to the desktop, alt f4 will also
bring up the shut down dialog. On my computer, Windows key m doesn't
always take you to the desktop. Rather often, it places you on the start
button. Issuing the same command again places you on the desktop.
There are other ways to shut down, restart, and do the other things you do in
the shut down dialog but this is most similar to the Windows XP dialog and, as
a new Windows 7 user, you may find this the most convenient method to use for
now. You may or may not want to switch later as you learn different ways of
doing things in Windows 7. the other main way isn't any more difficult, just a
little different.
When you bring up the shut down dialog, you are placed on shutdown. If that is
what you want to occur, press enter. If you want some other acction to occur,
move to the item and press enter. Shortly, I'll describe another method of
shutting down Windows.
One thing you will see as you look around are split buttons. A split button
often allows you to see more options than just the default action. Let's take
an example.
Let's say you come across a split button that says shut down Windows. You
won't find it in the shut down dialog I showed you how to open but you will
find it if you learn the other main way to shut down windows in Windows 7. If
you press enter on that button, Windows will shut down. That is the default
action. Split buttons often show more options if you either right arrow while
on the button or down arrow. As an example, if you are on the shut down split
button, you can right arrow and a list of options will open. the items in the
list include sleep, hibernate, restart, and others. You up or down arrow
through the list or use the short cut commands you hear announced as you move
through the list. the letter shortcuts often take actions without pressing
enter so be careful when using them, just as you are in menus.
So, let's review. You find a split button that says shut down. If you press
enter, the computer will shut down. If you right arrow, other options may be
displayed. Or if you down arrow, other options may be displayed. A split
button won't work with both methods. One method, either right arrowing or down
arrowing will do so if it can be done with the button. Try both methods if you
don't know which one might work. If you are on a tool bar which extends across
the screen from left to right, down arrowing will open additional options. If
you think about this, it makes sense. If you are in a menu, down arrowing will
move you to the next item in the menu. So you right arrow on the split button
to cause it to display more options. In a tool bar that extends across the
screen from left to right, right arrowing will move you to the next item in the
tool bar. So you down arrow when on the split button to cause it to display
more options. But some tool bars run up and down the screen, as menus do. And
at times, you may not be sure which way a structure extends on screen. So, as
I said, if you are not sure or don't know, try both methods of causing the
split button to display more options. Often, one of them will work. If you
open the options a split button offers and don't want to work with them, arrow
in the opposite direction to move out of them. For example, if you right
arrowed to open more options, left arrow.
Let's find the shutdown split button in the start menu.
Open the start menu.
Right arrow once.
You are now on the shutdown split button. If you press enter Windows will shut
down. If you right arrow, you will be in a number of items you can up or down
arrow through such as restart, hibernate, etc. To close the options you are now
in without taking any action, left arrow.
Regarding ribbons, much of the complaining about them is not warranted if you
understand how they work and how to use short cut commands effectively and
efficiently. and I would strongly recommend against using the JAWS virtual
menus, no matter what the JAWS training material says about ribbons being
difficult to use. the training material is just plain wrong and if you use the
virtual menus offered as an option in JAWS, you will also not hear any short
cut commands announced.
Try looking at ribbons and doing what is described below in wordpad. Everyone
with Windows 7 has Wordpad on their machine. Wordpad provides a good
environment to look at and practice working with ribbons.
The essence of working with ribbons is this:
Press alt to move to the upper ribbon.
You will probably be on an item that says home tab. Items on the upper ribbon
are announced as tabs such as home tab, view tab, etc.
To see what choices are available in the ribbon,
right or left arrow repeatedly to move through the items. Move in one
direction to move through all of them, just as you would to move through all
the items in a menu. For this demonstration, just so we are all doing the same
thing, move with the right arrow. When you get back to where you started, you
can keep right arrowing to move through the items again, if you wish. You can
move through all the items as many times as you want. Or you can move with the
left arrow whenever you want to move in the opposite direction.
Stop on view. Then start tabbing. You will move through all items in what is
called the lower ribbon that are associated with the view item.
Many items in the lower ribbon are buttons. Use either the space bar or enter
to activate the button. You may find a button that opens a menu and if you
press enter or the space bar, you will then be in a menu.
Each time you move to an item, you will hear the short cut command to work with
that item.
Let's look at an item which is usually called the application menu. Return to
the main program window in wordpad by closing the ribbons. You can either
press escape repeatedly, if necessary, or you can press alt once. Now, open
the ribbons again with alt.
Start right arrowing until you get to the application menu.
You will hear application menu and then something like button drop down grid.
Never mind drop down grid. It's a description you don't have to worry about.
The important things are that you are on a button and at the application menu.
Press enter or the space bar to activate the button. Activating the button
opens the menu. Start down arrowing. you will hear all the short cut commands
necessary to open an item or take an action. When you got to the menu item,
you heard alt f. When you open the menu and move through it, you will hear all
the letters announced. for example, if you down arrow to save as, you will
hear alt f a. that means that, when you are in the main program window, you
press and hold alt, type f while holding alt, then release both letters. You
have now opened the menu. You then type a to open save as.
Experiment with some of the split buttons you will find in the menu we are
working with to get a feel for how they work and what they do. You are in a
menu so right arrowing shows the additional options. Left arrow moves you out
of the additional options.
Commands such as control o, control n, control s, control r, etc. are mostly
retained in programs
that use ribbons, though you won't hear them announced. If you don't already
know them, you'll have to find them in ways such as by looking at a list of
keyboard commands for the program. Such lists are often available in the help
for the program. If you already know the commands from having used an older
version of the program, most or perhaps even all of the commands you know will
work.
Gene
Message 2.
You should change the setting for file extensions so that they are
displayed. You can do this in the same way as in XP. One way to
do this is to open the c drive. You can do so in the following manner:
Open the run dialog. In windows 7, you have to hold down the windows key
when you type r. If you do this, the run dialog will open and it works in
the same way as in Windows xp. In other words, hold the windows key and,
while doing so, type r. Then release both keys. Once the run dialog
opens, type c: and press enter. Note the colon after the c.
Open the menus with alt. Then type t.
You are in the tools menu.
Type o.
You have opened folder options.
shift tab once.
right arrow until you hear view.
Tab until you get to the advanced settings tree.
Down arrow to show extensions for known file types. Uncheck it with the
space bar.
Tab to enter and press the space bar. Close the c drive with alt f4.
You will now see extensions when you look at file types.
You can change what appears on the desktop in the following manner:
Go to the desktop.
Down arrow once to make sure only one item is selected.
Issue the command control space bar.
that unselects the item that was selected and now nothing is selected.
For those who are wondering, pressing f5 as an alternative method for
unselecting everything doesn't work, at least not on my machine when on
the desktop.
Open the context menu.
Up arrow, it's much closer that way, to personalize. Press enter.
Tab many times until you get to change desktop icons and press enter.
You are in a list. Up and down arrow to see the items. If you want an
item to be displayed, check it with the space bar. If you don't want it
displayed, uncheck it if it is already checked. Computer, one of the
items in the list, is the same as My Computer used to be. the name has
been changed by Microsoft to just computer instead of what I considered
the childish name, My Computer, it's like a child saying, My candy. I
have computer set to be showed on the desktop and I also have Control
Panel show on the desktop. You may not want these items displayed but I
find it very convenient. Another easy way to open Control Panel is to use the
start menu search field. Open the start menu, and, probably just typing contr
will cause Control panel to be shown as the first result. Press enter when you
are on the correct result to open Control Panel. Of course, if you don't get
good results, you can type more of the phrase control panel.
You may get messages or see some blind people advocate changing the view
in Control Panel to small icons so that you can move by first letter
navigation. I'm not telling you not to do so but I am saying that often,
far too often, blind people reject change in computer-related interfaces
without understanding the benefits that may be offered in the new
interface and without giving the new interface a proper try to see if they
like it before rejecting it out of hand. If you leave Control Panel
display set to the default setting, you will find that when you open
Control panel, you are in a search field. Do you want to find device
manager? Just type device in the field and down arrow. You will get to
device manager very quickly. Press enter to open it.
Do you want to get to system? Type system in the search field, down arrow
until you get to it and press enter. Again, you will find system very
quickly in this way. Do you want to change sounds? Type sounds in the
search field and down arrow until you get to change system sounds and
press enter. You are now in the sounds part of the volume dialog and are
in the correct place to work with sound schemes.
If you are looking for something in control panel and aren't sure what it
is called and want to look for it without using the search field, once you
open control panel, start tabbing. You will move from link to link, as
though you were tabbing through a web page. there may be times when using
first letter navigation would be faster. For example, if you know
something you are looking for begins with the letter s but you don't
remember the name well enough to use the search field to find it. but I
would much rather have access to the search field than to first letter
navigation when working with Control panel. You may disagree but don't
just change this setting because blind people say you should do it. I far
too often see blind people recommend the small icons setting so you can
use first letternavigation and I don't ever recall one of them explaining
that you will loose access to the search field if you make this change.
What I'm discussing in this message does not actually fall under the
category of accessibility. Windows is accessible whether you make the
changes and work in the ways I describe or not. but these are changes or
ways of working that may make using Windows more convenient or faster or
both.
Gene
Message 3.
First, is Windows Live Mail on your computer? If so, you need to learn
how to work with ribbons.
What I will describe will allow you to work with ribbons in any program
that contains them. I will describe how to work with ribbons and, as part
of the discussion, tell you how to open the accounts dialog in Windows
Live Mail.
I would strongly urge you not to use the JAWS virtual menus if you are
using JAWS 12.x. Virtual menus are off in JAWS by default so if you
haven't turned on the virtual menus, you will be seeing the actual
ribbons. The JAWS training material claims that ribbons are difficult to
use. FS is doing a real disservice to the JAWS using community by
encouraging people not to use ribbons and making claims FS may believe are
true, but are not, about the difficulty in using ribbons.
Here is how to open the accounts dialog to create an e-mail account in Windows
Live Mail. Seeing how this is done may help you understand how to work with
ribbons in general.
open Windows Live Mail.
Open the ribbons with alt.
You are in the upper ribbon on the home tab.
Start right arrowing.
You will get to accounts after two or three right arrows.
Start tabbing to see what is in accounts. Stop on a button that says e-mail.
You can use either enter or the space bar on this button.
If you wish, before you open this item, you can tab through all
the items in this lower ribbon. You will see a news groups button and, I
believe one or two other items. the news groups button is for creating a news
groups account.
Once you return to the e-mail button, use
either enter or the space bar. then set up an account as usual.
You will find an application menu available. It is a
menu from which you work with many aspects of the program you used to use
the file menu fore. and indeed, you can open it from the main program
window by holding down the alt key and typing f. One important thing you
will see in this menu is the options dialog that used to be in the tools
menu. Now, in the new version of Windows Live Mail, it's in the
application submenu because this submenu is not a file menu, it's for
working with certain application items and features, ranging from save as
to the options menu.
Accellerator commands often work in programs with ribbons. Commands such
as control o, control s, and, since we are discussing an e-mail program,
control r for reply, in short, many or most or perhaps all of the
accellerator commands you used to use in previous versions of the program
usually work.
My recommendation is that, when using ribbons, if you know you are going
to use a command regularly, that you make a point of remembering the short
cut commands announced for getting to that item, that is, if an
accellerator command such as control o, control s, or control r is not
available. You won't hear commands such as control o, control s, or control r
announced when working with ribbons. You have to know them or find them in
other ways such as looking them up in a list of program commands, often
available in the help material for the program.
Gene
On 3/20/2014 3:09 PM, Estelnalissi wrote:
Dear Marty,
You’re a genius! Your instructions worked on the first try! The file is
perfect! How did you know that?
Evan knew we had to get the document in normal view but we couldn’t figure
out where it was in the ribbons.
Several months ago I remember a volunteer writing to this list saying
something like that she’d made peace with the ribbons, that she was having a
good time checking them out. I remember being thunderstruck, admiring that
person and wishing I could succeed at such constructive exploration. Was that
you or is it possible that more than one screen reader user has achieved such a
great accomplishment?
Thanks. You are a great help!
Always with love,
Lissi
From: Martha Rafter
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:56 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Heading Level One
Hi Lissi,
I also find that very distracting when I am trying to proof. I hope this
will work:
Select all by Holding control and hitting A
Hold down the control and the shift keys and hitting N
This will put the whole book into normal style.
Marty
From: Estelnalissi
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:42 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Heading Level One
Dear Booksharian Friends,
In a file I am proofreading Jaws is saying “heading level one,” at the
beginnings of lines, even blank ones, as I arrow down to listen to them.
Without a pattern, it reads occasional lines without saying it, but it’s
monotonous and I don’t know how to make it stop.
I use word 2010 with Microsoft 7. I still find the ribbons maddeningly
unintelligible. I did try and check the section for views, but none of the tabs
there sounded as if they would cure the problem. It says I have the printer’s
view, but that hasn’t been a problem with other book files. All I know about
word is the minimum I must know to proofread, but now I need to get rid of the
unwanted “Heading level one,” announcements.
Any help would be appreciated as this is the last in the 8 book Amanda Hazard
series which will be such a fun cozy mystery addition to the collection. I got
sidetracked on Irish Books as I do during the St. Patrick’s season every year,
but I’m eager to settle in on the books that languished just because they
weren’t written with a brogue.
Thank you in advance.
Always with love,
Lissi
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