[bksvol-discuss] Re: Got the credit and a suggestion

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:03:18 -0400

Yes, by catalog entry I mean a book in the case of Bookshare. I used a more generic term because I was talking about web sites that may deal with things other than books. Generally they do let anyone add tags. Paperback Swap does specifically say that it allows personal identification tags, but since those will tend to fall to the bottom of the list of tags it is assumed that they will not cause a problem for anyone who is not interested in them. I was actually thinking of something more like what Open Library has though. At Open Library they are trying to create a web page for every book that has ever been published. With that many pages that have been, for the most part, created by bots that have searched various sources, one can expect that most of them have incomplete bibliographical data. They invite anyone who might come along to improve any listing. They allow anyone to enter a synopsis or other information that might be missing and they have several categories for tags, subject, people date and so forth. They do not encourage personal tags like "stored in my basement." If someone disagrees with a tag it can be removed too. In other words it is a wiki. The category tags can be anything you want though, That means that there is plenty of room for subcategories or categories that no one else has ever thought of. It is somewhat patterned after Wikipedia and so if someone comes along who edits an entry with the intention of vandalism someone else can immediately delete the vandalism. However, I have never seen any vandalism at Open Library while I have seen it and, in fact, corrected it at Wikipedia.



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----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob W" <rwiley45@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:16 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Got the credit and a suggestion


Roger, I really do want to understand your suggestion: but I don't.

By catalog entry do you mean a book?

Who tags these catalog entries, just any reader?

Bob the dense.
"Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
governed by those who are dumber." Aristotle
----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:51 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Got the credit and a suggestion


That is exactly the problem. One can come up with a variety of categories
and if we get enough categories to satisfy everyone then it would be
entirely unwieldy. That is why I am going to offer a suggestion that I have
offered before even though I don't feel like it has much chance of being
acted on. There is a feature on a lot of sites called tags. I have found it
at Amazon, Paperback Swap,Open Library and others. A user can label any
catalog entry with a tag that may range from a category or subcategory to a note like "stored in my basement." When looking at a catalog entry the most
popular tags would appear at the top and less popular tags might be hidden
so that it would be necessary to click a tab labeled more to see them. If
you click the tag itself you will see a list of all catalog entries that
have received that tag and if you don't see the tag you are looking for then
you could do a search for it and if anyone has ever tagged one or more
entries with it then those would come up. If I sat here and tried to think
of useful categories I could probably come up with hundreds. They might be
really useful, but the category structure simply would not handle them and
it would be a nightmare to browse through them. Tags would fulfill the
function though. If Scott is reading this then I would like to suggest
floating the idea to whomever handles things like that.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:26 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Got the credit and a suggestion


Hi, Wanda, it sounds okay to me. Also, I'm of the opinion that diet
books should have their own category to distinguish them from cookbooks
which are primarily concerned with recipes. I suppose one can
distinguish food fiction from the food and wine category (I hope so
anyway.) There are some of us who think science fiction should be in a
category by itself and that there should be a fantasy category so that
sf readers can be assured they're getting science fiction and the
fantasy lovers don't have to weed through the science fiction category
to get what they like. Come to that, Wanda, you can have politics and
government or public policy. I suppose you can have a category based on
polemics which can be termed political argument or opinion. Heavens! One
can come up with a variety of categories. Regards, Kim Friedman.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wanda Cochran
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:11 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Got the credit and a suggestion


   Hello.  I got an email last night saying the book was approved and
that I received the credit.  Thank you for your responses.  I'm happy to
hear that this is not normal and this falls into the category of stuff
happens. I wanted to make a suggestion that a new category of books be
added to the category of books, called political or government.  I just
proofed the book "Searching for God knows what," and it was in the
nonfiction and religious category.  I read the book and there is
discussion of politics and since this book is for people who are seeking
a religious connection, I felt that there should be an awareness to a
potential reader that public policy is being addressed in the book.  It
would irritate me to choose a book in the religious category and then
get halfway through the book to find the author is using the book to
inject their political point of view,right leaning or left leaning, I
think I should know that politics is involved, especially if I
downloaded a book for spiritual guidance.  I like to keep my church and
state separated.  I know politics is a thorny issue, but perhaps any
book that directly discusses public policy could fall into the politics
category as an additional marker to the reader.  What do you think?
Wanda.


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