[bksvol-discuss] Re: Got the credit and a suggestion
- From: Scott Rains <scottr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:41:32 -0700
Hi Roger,
You knew I would "delurk" at that bait, didn't you? Your idea has been
passed along to Engineering.
To give some brief history, Bookshare's original metadata system started
out close to what is known as Dublin Core. The gold standard is OCLC. To
fill in our records we have drawn data from Bowker in the past and now use
Onix.
Library description vocabularies use the concept of reserved words. It is
the flip side of the tagging you are describing. That gets called
"folksonomy." You might think of it as "crowd-sourced cataloging."
Standardized classification systems allow for library collections to talk
to each other allowing federated searches, interlibrary loan requests, and
other data-sharing activities. A system can be coded to allow both
approaches. Bookshare sits somewhere in the middle thus this ongoing
conversation among volunteers.
Someday when you are are pondering categories you might want to scan
various thesauri for the structured vocabularies they contain. Here's a
list up on OCLC:
http://www.oclc.org/au/en/terminologies/
Scott
On 4/29/11 7:51 AM, "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>That is exactly the problem. One can come up with a variety of categories
>and if we get enough categories to satisfy everyone then it would be
>entirely unwieldy. That is why I am going to offer a suggestion that I
>have
>offered before even though I don't feel like it has much chance of being
>acted on. There is a feature on a lot of sites called tags. I have found
>it
>at Amazon, Paperback Swap,Open Library and others. A user can label any
>catalog entry with a tag that may range from a category or subcategory to
>a
>note like "stored in my basement." When looking at a catalog entry the
>most
>popular tags would appear at the top and less popular tags might be
>hidden
>so that it would be necessary to click a tab labeled more to see them. If
>you click the tag itself you will see a list of all catalog entries that
>have received that tag and if you don't see the tag you are looking for
>then
>you could do a search for it and if anyone has ever tagged one or more
>entries with it then those would come up. If I sat here and tried to
>think
>of useful categories I could probably come up with hundreds. They might
>be
>really useful, but the category structure simply would not handle them
>and
>it would be a nightmare to browse through them. Tags would fulfill the
>function though. If Scott is reading this then I would like to suggest
>floating the idea to whomever handles things like that.
>
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:26 AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Got the credit and a suggestion
>
>
>> Hi, Wanda, it sounds okay to me. Also, I'm of the opinion that diet
>> books should have their own category to distinguish them from cookbooks
>> which are primarily concerned with recipes. I suppose one can
>> distinguish food fiction from the food and wine category (I hope so
>> anyway.) There are some of us who think science fiction should be in a
>> category by itself and that there should be a fantasy category so that
>> sf readers can be assured they're getting science fiction and the
>> fantasy lovers don't have to weed through the science fiction category
>> to get what they like. Come to that, Wanda, you can have politics and
>> government or public policy. I suppose you can have a category based on
>> polemics which can be termed political argument or opinion. Heavens! One
>> can come up with a variety of categories. Regards, Kim Friedman.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wanda Cochran
>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:11 AM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Got the credit and a suggestion
>>
>>
>> Hello. I got an email last night saying the book was approved and
>> that I received the credit. Thank you for your responses. I'm happy to
>> hear that this is not normal and this falls into the category of stuff
>> happens. I wanted to make a suggestion that a new category of books be
>> added to the category of books, called political or government. I just
>> proofed the book "Searching for God knows what," and it was in the
>> nonfiction and religious category. I read the book and there is
>> discussion of politics and since this book is for people who are seeking
>> a religious connection, I felt that there should be an awareness to a
>> potential reader that public policy is being addressed in the book. It
>> would irritate me to choose a book in the religious category and then
>> get halfway through the book to find the author is using the book to
>> inject their political point of view,right leaning or left leaning, I
>> think I should know that politics is involved, especially if I
>> downloaded a book for spiritual guidance. I like to keep my church and
>> state separated. I know politics is a thorny issue, but perhaps any
>> book that directly discusses public policy could fall into the politics
>> category as an additional marker to the reader. What do you think?
>> Wanda.
>>
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