[bksvol-discuss] Re: Google search for titles

  • From: Mike <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:40:30 -0800

Use books.google.com instead of www.google.com

Then put in the title of the book (and maybe the author to make sure the right book is at the top of the list).

The first link is usually the google book, but occasionally it is the second or third

When you select the link for the title of the book, near the top of the page should be four links: overview, preview, reviews and buy. It may say full preview, partial preview or no preview. Below that will be a search box, unless there is no preview. If it has full preview (mostly public domain books, but a few publishers/authors have given permission for full previews of current books).

If it has partial preview, only some pages are available, but you can get snippets from any page by searching for a word or phrase from the book.

If there is a search box on the preview page (not the main google search box which will still be at the top of the page), put any phrase from the book into it (if you want to search for an exact pharase, put quotes around it like "the swift brown fox").

It should then give you a list of snippets with page numbers at the beginning of each.

If the phrase is on a preview page, you can select the page number link and it will go to the full page.

If the page with the snippet is not part of the preview, the page number will not be a link and at the end of the snippet it will say, "no preview available for this page."

For example, I am proofing Singularity Sky by Charles Stross. I put that in books.google.com

The first link is the book I want.  I select that.

After the overview, preview, Reviews, buy links is a search box. I want to know if the word "gormless" on page 18 is what is really there or if it is a scanno. There is no preview for that page, but I put the word in the search box and get the result

So far, he'd successfully played the gormless foreign engineering contractor with a runaway mouth,

So, it must be invented SF slang.

Or say on another page the bookshare book has

like so many intelligent men who survived the elite bo-&>ol system, he was also inclined to intellectual rigidity

I put rigidity in the search box and get the phrase right after what I want (ok, it doesn't always work perfectly).

So, instead I put in elite.  This time I get

and almost painfully unskilled in the social nuances: like so many intelligent men who survived the elite boarding school system, he was also inclined

And there is the phrase I want "boarding school" instead of "bo-&>ol"

And in case Evan who scanned Singularity Sky reads this, that phrase was not actually mangled, but I did want to know if "gormless" was really there.

By the way, in a previous post I said the snippets are now in text, making them accessible to screen readers. That is not completely true. Apparently google is in the process of doing this, but it is kind of randomly available. The "no preview" snippets are always text, but the snippets for pages that do have a preview are sometimes only images and sometimes text.

Well, on the books.google.com home page, it still says beta. I guess that's why things are still changing. Let's hope the changes are mostly in the better, more accessible direction.

Misha

Cindy wrote:
Mike, is there a special place to put titlesor snippets of sentences in google 
to look for pages in a book, other than the ordinary search?

Cindy

Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and books-being-scanned 
list available at sites below



Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List

Books Being Scanned List: 
https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List


--- On Sat, 10/31/09, Mike <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Mike <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: for shelly, about Fossil Follies
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 1:23 PM
Apparently, google hasn't scanned
Fossil Follies. When I put that title in, it says "no preview" and there is no search box to use to get snippets. I wonder if they have done many children's books. As I understand it, most of what they have scanned is from
university libraries.

By the way. to get to the scanned books, it's now best to
go to books.google.com

I am sure that not so long ago I could use book: "book
title" in regular google and it would put google books entries first, but it doesn't seem to work now.

Sorry this didn't work.  It looks like a book I would
have loved as a kid.

Misha
Cindy wrote:
How do you get the google books and page es? I tried
putting the p. 14 question in google and didn't get
anywhere--and the dinosoaurus egg just got me science info
Cindy

Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection)
and books-being-scanned list available at sites below

Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List

Books Being Scanned List: 
https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List


--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Shelley L. Rhodes <guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From: Shelley L. Rhodes <guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: for shelly, about
Fossil Follies
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 6:29 PM
Hi laurie,


I believe it is supposed to be dinosaurus egg,

As for the second one, no clue.  I can borrow
the book
again, but it might take some time.  These
were library
books and not in the best of shape, smile.

But I will rerequest the book.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori" <lori@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:58 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] for shelly, about Fossil
Follies
Hi,

Can you write me off list as I have a couple
questions
about Fossil Follies.
I will go ahead and place my questions below.
Other
than these I have the book ready to be checked
in.
Is each joke suppose to have a Q: and A: also,
a
couple of times the words have gotten chopped at
the end. In
most cases it is easy to figure out what it is.
Page 10 I am not sure if this is complete:
What do you get if you break saurus egg?

A really big omelet.

(Is it just suppose to be saurus, or is there
a
partial word missing?)
And page 14: I believe ther is a word missing
after
they:
Why did dinosaurs enjoy the day they

Because it was the living end.


Lori@xxxxxxxxxxxx
or
twilight2@xxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks,
Lori

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