[bksvol-discuss] Re: "Good" Book?
- From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:42:31 -0700
Marilyn:
I'll add to the confusion yet further. Bookshare has a post-validation
tool, which, when u upload the book for acceptance into the
collection, gives the book a rating according to how many words are
not in its dictionary, which, btw, can be modified if there are a lot
of foreign words, proper names, etc. But there are no such
"prevalidation" tools, & submitters choose their own ratings for their
books, which, in some cases, are sadly inaccurate. 1 trick u can do is
this:
1) Download the book from step 1;
2) Immediately go to step 2 & choose to upload & accept the book. When
u do that, the tools kick in & give u the real rating--just get out of
it then--don't do the final accept, & you'll get to see how bookshare
rates the book. &, btw, if it's fair, definitively nuke it because
Bookshare no longer accepts them.
We on this list have been cryin' the blues that bookshare doesn't have
pre- as well as post- validation tools. Lend your voice to the din
should u wish lol.
I'm guessing from your posts that you're a sighted volunteer? If
that's correct, that's really cool (though if it's not, that's also
cool, too)! There are a few sighted volunteers on this list, some
w/dyslexia & others w/no print disability, & they help out immensely
those of us who are blind & occasionally need something like picture
descriptions, rescanning bad or missing pages, etc.
On 3/21/08, Mayrie ReNae <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Marilyn,
>
> What no one so far has said, and perhaps you already know, is that
> the rating of a book when it is submitted (before validation) is
> subjective, the opinion of the submitter. So, you will find that
> generally books rated excellent are of similar high quality, and
> books rated "good" less so. But the "good" rating that you are
> seeing was only the opinion of the person who submitted the
> book. When you finish working on the book and upload it for
> administration approval to the Bookshare collection the book will be
> assessed by automated tools and given a rating of "good" or
> "excellent" based on the actual amount of errors in the book. What
> I'm saying, in other words is that the "good" rating of a book on the
> step 1 page was only the opinion of the person who submitted the book
> sometimes.
>
> Just to muddy the waters, I will say that people using
> Kurzweil to scan their books have the option to have that program
> calculate the number of errors in their submission, and can then use
> that calculation to rate their book. Some of us know that the
> bookshare tools consider an excellently rated book to be given 99.3%
> accuracy rating or better. A good book is rated no lower during the
> final upload process than 98.6% accurate. Some of us using Kurzweil
> use these same ratings to rate our submissions. However, the
> ratings given by Kurzweil and by the automated Bookshare rating tool
> rarely are exactly the same.
>
> Have I confused you more than any kind person should? Sorry if I
> have. I just wanted to let you know that when you choose a book to
> validate, very often the rating of that book is simply the subjective
> opinion of the person who submitted it. And many times that
> person hasn't read the book through so doesn't really know what the
> validator will discover when going through the book.
>
> Okay, I'll stop now.
>
> Peace,
> Mayrie
>
> At 12:34 PM 3/21/2008, you wrote:
> >Good afternoon, all.
> >
> >I'm new, so I don't know if I have a problem or not. I'm really
> >looking for some input here.
> >
> >I'm validating my first book. I picked a book rated "Good" because
> >I wanted a challenge.
> >I got the actual book from the library to help me proofread -- and
> >it's a good thing I did.
> >There were words missing here and there, strange symbols scattered
> >about, etc. Two
> >sequential pages were missing altogether, so I input them.
> >
> >After page 300, I found that EVERY odd-numbered page had the same
> >problem: the
> >first two or three words on EVERY line were garbled, gibberish,
> >nowhere near what
> >the actual words were. The even-numbered pages were still, as I had
> >expected, "Good."
> >But the first two or three words on EVERY line of EVERY OTHER PAGE? This
> is
> >rated "Good"? What's "Poor"?
> >
> >Today, color me "Confused,"
> >Marilyn
> >
>
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