[bksvol-discuss] Re: Fw: [bookshare-discuss] hoping to start somewhere

  • From: "Julie Morales" <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:13:37 -0700

Yes, the print copy would have the same errors. It can be corrected. I can't 
remember who said it, but as was already written, you'd have to download the 
DAISY file, open the HTML version and convert that to RTF. Then, it can be 
treated as any other validation and submitted as an RTF to replace the 
entire book, so the print and braille files would be corrected. There are 
times when there are translation errors, and only correcting the braille 
file is sufficient, because the braille file would be the only file 
replaced, but it sounds like these are scanning errors, and if you were 
wanting to correct the whole thing, that's what would have to be done. Take 
Julie Morales
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:58 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fw: [bookshare-discuss] hoping to start 

Dear Julie and everyone,

Julie, your explanation of the errors I'm finding sounds logical. For pinya
Colata, my copy said  pifia colata. If that reflects a scanning error,
wouldn't it be the same error in print? All through the book the name O'Day
is written O"Day.  Is there a way to make the corrections so both print and
braille would be corrected. Harvest is an entertaining novel, but I won't
save it. For my own reading, in this case, I'm content to gloss over the
mistakes, but I thought correcting them would make the book nicer for the
next readers.

I keep asking because I still don't understand whether braille is corrected
differently from print or audio, or if corrections to one could fix the
others, too.

Please tell me more. I'd like to understand the system better.  It seems
many computer users are almost intuitive about understanding patterns and
commands. I need the obvious to be explained, but I can learn this stuff and
know I'll be contributing.

I've followed Rose's problems with sympathy. In learning what I know so far
I have noticed that things can go so wrong and resist being fixed and, then,
some simple little thing or key stroke can almost magically make everything
fall in to place and it works.

Rose, was that medical book your first scanning project for Book Share? It
sounds so huge and difficult for even the most experienced volunteer.

This might not be your approach, but when I make my first attempt, I will
find a short, children's chapter book with few pictures and embellishments.
Then, I won't invest  much time or have to deal with a big file for my first
effort. As a former teacher, I still have lots of books like the one I

If anyone would like me to send them a, "starter book," I'd be happy to. I
have 2 copies of some books so if you had an established Book Share
volunteer to help, they could use the second copy. Unless I specify
otherwise,  the books I send are free, I pay the postage and you do whatever
you like with the book when you finish with it because I won't want it back.

Always With Love,

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie Morales" <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 6:22 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fw: [bookshare-discuss] hoping to start

> You can correct the braille copy, but these sound like scanning errors,
> not
> just with the braille file. The dots 2,3,5, I believe you said is what
> happened, is also the exclamation mark, and that is a scanner error, so it
> wouldn't be just the braille file affected by this. What I do with files
> like this is just correct as I go for my own purposes and keep the
> corrected
> file for myself. Take care.
> Julie Morales
> inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Windows/MSN Messenger (but not email):
> mercy0421@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype: mercy0421
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:32 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Fw: [bookshare-discuss] hoping to start
> somewhere
> Hello Everyone, especially volunteers who use the Braille note with
> refreshable braille to read  book share books in brf format.
> I sent  this post to the book share discuss group and now realize I should
> have sent it to you, the volunteers. I'm sorry for sending it to both
> lists,
> but maybe it just doubles my chances of getting the advice I need. Below
> is
> the post, with a few alterations, I sent to the discuss list.
> - - - - -
> I've listened to jaws read 3 novels from Book Share and if there were
> errors, I didn't notice them. After some fizzles and good advice, I've
> moved
> a brf file to my Braille Note. I'm on page 157 of Tess Gerritsen's,
> "Harvest." It was rated  excellent, and  I've had a wonderful time reading
> it.
> Now comes my question. I'm not disputing the rating and I'm not
> criticizing.
> I feel so lucky to be reading this book in braille. I agree the volunteer
> did an excellent job with all of the tasks  needed to prepare it for us.
> Occasionally I am noticing small errors. For example, the word, I,  at the
> beginning of a quoted phraise, like "I am happy," always appears as dots 2
> 3
> and 5, which translates as the contraction for the word, "to." Other
> little
> things pop up like missing spaces between words, a word spelled out which
> should be contracted or simple typos as in a word with one cell of random
> dots. In one instance the word, what, is written  r h a t, the contraction
> for wh  doesn't appear and xx is written between the opening quotation
> mark
> and the capital sign for the first word. None of these mistakes has made
> it
> difficult to understand the story, nor have they posed any problems.
> It would be so easy for me to correct these errors since I'm reading the
> book any way. Is there a way of incorporating small corrections in a book
> without starting the process from the beginning and without taking it off
> the list of available books?
> This proof reading comes naturally. It's so easy for me and could tidy up
> the braille for the next readers.
> I haven't done anything official as a volunteer yet. I'm confused by
> computers, but with patience can be taught and perform operations I've
> learned with consistant success.
> Just wondering if I could or should fine tune this excellent book or
> others
> like it. If the answer is, yes, then I need to learn how to do it.
> Always With Love,
> Lissi

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