[bksvol-discuss] Re: From List-serve to Discussion Board?

  • From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:20:57 -0600

In a discussion board there is a "what's new page that shows all the 
newest topics.
Once you have posted to a topic once,  the thread is entered in your "my 
threads" page,  which can be bookmarked.  On this page the topics are 
arranged by update time/date,  with the most recently updated threads at 
the top.  If cookies are used,  you can be on the "my threads" page in a 
single action from your browsers home page.
It's truly very fast.
Any requirements for not seeing msgs from particular posters could also be 
accommodated easily without admistrative intervention.  E.G.  block 
Aloysius for your userid,  while others will still be able to read his 


Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
Research Division,
Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able

Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> 
Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
12/30/2004 05:35 PM
Please respond to


[bksvol-discuss] Re: From List-serve to Discussion Board?

I agree with Sue but for different reasons. Even
though there are sometimes, indeed, lately, quite
often, a lot of mail in my mailbox, I can delete the
post quickly if I see the subject doesn't interest me.
If the tone of messages is offensive to people, they
don't have to read them (but then, of course, one
sometimes misses humor). If the subject heading isn't
changed, which happens often, I open the post anyway
because I know that and want to be sure that the
message isn't in fact something that I want to read.
In a discussion board, that probably woulnd't be the

And a discussion board would mean that a person would
have to go to a new site at least once a day, and
perhaps several times, log in, scroll down, etc. 
--unless we ask to be notified that there is a
response, in which case we're still getting a lot of

I think, like Sue, I'd bow out, unless I had serious
questions, in which case, Marissa,I'd probably write
directly to you.  And then I'd miss the camaradie and
all the nice people on this list. I was reminded,
during the recent squabbles, of the way siblings argue
and get angry with each other. It seems to me that
that's what we've become: a family, the members of
which care about what happens to each other in their
lives as well as here, and who get along most of the
time but not all of the time.

--- siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Marissa,
> I agree that we should stop bickering, but have to
> say that I don't like the
> idea that you could delete messages if they didn't
> please you.  At work I
> always had one authority figure, as in my
> supervisor, but this is different
> and I, for one, would not be a part of it.
> Sue S.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marissa Mika" <Marissa.M@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:48 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] From List-serve to
> Discussion Board?
> Hi Folks,
> I suppose one option in all of this is that we move
> this discussion list
> to a more controlled setting: a discussion board
> where (the
> administrative) deleting of posts is an option. Such
> deletions would be
> minimal, as I like the organic and informal nature
> of these discussions.
> In extreme cases, however, I am not opposed to
> enforcing civility if it
> maintains a better tone and representation of
> Bookshare.org.
> A discussion board has many benefits. It's easier to
> follow the
> individual discussion threads if you're not
> interested in cats but have
> a passion for Epsons, for example. It would also
> decrease the number of
> messages in your inbox that you would have to wade
> through on a daily
> basis. Also, if volunteers are visiting a specific
> url, it would be
> possible to provide links to a variety of pages,
> including scanning tips
> and Rui's links to the lists.
> I'm inclined to see how easy it would be to
> implement a discussion board
> as opposed to this list-serve. Is there any feedback
> on this matter that
> I should take into account?
> Thanks,
> Marissa
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Louise
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:10 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks redux
> Now children, enough of this sparring.  Does any of
> this have anything
> to do
> with Bookshare?  Do we want Marissa to start
> cracking down on these type
> of
> discussions?
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Kenneth A. Cross
>   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 2:36 PM
>   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks
> redux
>   Just another example of your concern for the
> customer.
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Guido Corona
>     To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 3:16 PM
>     Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks
> redux
>     Thank you Dr. Cross,  yours has been  a Thorough
> treatment of the
> matter
> at hand" or is it a "compact biography?" of me. 
> Thank goodness it is
> not a
> "Love Inspired Romance".
>     Guido Dante Corona
>     IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
>     Research Division,
>     Phone:  512. 838. 9735.
>     Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     Web:  http://www.ibm.com/able
>           "Kenneth A. Cross" <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>           Sent by:
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>           12/29/2004 01:49 PM Please respond to
>                 bksvol-discuss
>          To <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>                 cc
>                 Subject [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt
> page breaks redux
>     I want to support Mary's comments.  Not only is
> Guido vigorously
> trying
> to
>        impose his standards, but he has made this a
> very unpleasant list
> with
>     which to be associated.  He routinely downs
> other volunteers,
> forgetting
>     that we, too, are customers as well as
> volunteers, but he also
> wastes
> list
>     bime with humor which is very often off point. 
> That might even be
> okay,
> but
>     express a view with which he disagrees, and
> suddenly your entire
> personality
>     is suspect. You are discussing things which have
> already been
> resolved,
> even
>     though he might be the only one who thinks so.
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Mary Otten" <maryotten@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 1:33 PM
>     Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: txt page breaks
> redux
>     > Guido,
>     > Here's a thought. Since there are lots of
> books on the download
> page
> which
>     are not in the txt format, and since there are
> people willing to
> work on
>     those which you find unredeemable and others who
> would be
>     > interested in reading cleaned up versions of
> same, why don't you
>     concentrate on the better quality or at least
> the non txt items
> rather
> than
>     imposing your standards on the whole of
> BookShare, especially in the
>     > absence of word from the powers that be
> regarding this issue?
>     > In a note to Kelly, you wondered rhetorically
> what part of the
> words
> pride
>     of work people don't understand. In turn, I
> wonder what gives you
> the
> right
>     to grant  yourself the authority to set
> standards which BookShare
>     > itself simply has not set.  This whole problem
> can be avoided if
> you
> just
>     set the selection of books on step one to be
> viewed to something
> other
> than
>     all formats, e.g. kes or rtf.
>     > There is room for interpretation with respect
> to the "readability"
>     standard. But until BookShare comes out with a
> guideline regarding
> this
>     whole page break business that will supercede
> what Marissa said
> before
> the
>     > Christmas break, I'd say your position on the
> page break issue is
> more
>     like disregard of present  policy rather than
> pride of work.
>     > I sure hope the staff at BookShare reaches
> consensus soon on this
> issue
>     and then,  let us all live with that decision,
> whatever it may be.
>     > Mary
>     >
>     >
>     >

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