[bksvol-discuss] Re: Fractions in bookshare files for Braille readers

  • From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:26:50 -0500

Barring using nemeth code, which you don't in literary braille so far, the - 
is the way compound fractions are supposed to be done in Braille.
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From: "Debby Franson" <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Roger and everyone!

11/2 is only read as eleven two when the two ones are bumped up against
each other with speech.  separated as in 1 1/2, it is read one one two,
which I am used to.  Eleven halfs is annoying when I hear it.  I am not
averse to a hyphen between the 1 of the whole number and the 1 of the
fraction in the compound fraction, however.  Is it better for braille
readers with the hyphen in a compound fraction?

Debby

At 07:53 PM 6/20/2010, Roger Loran Bailey wrote
>Like I said, with a screen reader putting a space only between the whole
>number and the fraction can make it unclear whether what is being read is
>one and a half or eleven halves. A hyphen would work for me at least. That
>does not adhere strictly to the print copy though, so I am not quite sure
>it is allowed.
>
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>>Hi
>>I know in Braille it is 1 1/2 buteven with the space I'vehad scanned
>>fractions come up saying 11/2 (eleven half), would putting in a hyphon or
>>dash work?
>>Maureen
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>>>In print one and a half is written 1 1/2. There is a space between the
>>>whole number and the fraction. When listening to that with a screen
>>>reader, though, it is not always apparent that the space is there unless
>>>one slows down the screen reader to spell it out. I suppose in a recipe
>>>it is not likely that one will come across eleven halves, but other
>>>fractions may not be so apparent. That makes me wonder if it would be
>>>good to come up with some way to seperate the whole number from the
>>>fraction so that a screen reader would read the seperation.
>>>
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>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 5:04 AM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fractions in bookshare files for Braille
>>>readers
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>>>
>>>>Hi, Pam I would write 1/2 or 1/4 or 1-1/8. When I see fractions, the 
>>>>slash
>>>>goes between the numerator and the denominator without spaces. Hope this
>>>>helps. Regards, Kim Friedman. P.S.: One of my pet peeves is seeing a 
>>>>mixed
>>>>fraction (such as 1-1/2 being written 1 1/2. K.
>>>>
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>>>>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pamela Hoffard
>>>>Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 6:13 PM
>>>>To: book list
>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Fractions in bookshare files for Braille 
>>>>readers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hey all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm coming across a bunch of fractions for recipes in the book that I'm
>>>>proofing.  For Braille readers, is the 1 / 2 format better than the
>>>>symbol 1
>>>>over 2 in one individual space (sorry I can't make this symbol in 
>>>>e-mail).
>>>>Any preference?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your thoughts,
>>>>
>>>>Pam
>>>>
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