[bksvol-discuss] Re: Font sizes for Navigation - the guidelines that will always work

  • From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:55:59 -0800

Thanks. I'll stick to 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, etc.as I've b een doing,
regardless of what the retf I download is . smile

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks Cindy. smile.
>
> What you are suggesting as a way to handle a book with subtitles, however,
> isn't right for correct DAISY navigation.  You can't make the text 13
> points, have the chapter titles 15 points, and make subtitles within the
> chapter 11 points.  The subtitles must be larger than the text by at least
> two points, and at the same time smaller than the chapter headings by at
> least two points.  If you don't do it that way, the DAISY conversion for
> navigation won't work right.  In your example, you would have to have the
> text 13 points, the chapter subtitles 15 points and the chapter headings 17
> points. This can work, but it can also blow up on you if the book also has
> section headings.  In that case, you can't squeeze in the section headings
> (which would have to be 19 points).  You'd end up needing to make the title
> 21 points, and that's bigger than we've been told to ever make the title.
> The title is supposed to be 20 points.
>
> It's really best to follow the standardized guideline:
>
> Title is bolded and 20 points
> Section headings (if the book has them) are bolded and 18 points
> Chapter headings are bolded and 16 points
> Subsection headings are bolded and 14 points
> Text of book is 12 points
>
> Judy s.
>
>
>
> On 11/21/2012 7:53 PM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
>>
>> Well put, Judy
>>
>> And the part bout the font used was interesting and new to me. I  have
>> always changed the font to Times New Roman even when the file I've
>> downloaded has been in something else (I think, a a matter of fact,
>> Arial; and I've changed the text to 12 point when it's been in 13
>> point; so I can leav e the text 13 point as long as I remember to make
>> the chapter titles 15 point and any subtitles within the chapter, 11
>> point, I guess.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks, there has been a lot of confusing information regarding this,
>>> including what Madeleine just posted. That's because it's all guidelines,
>>> not a standard.
>>>
>>> Here's the guideline that's been used for the last several years, posted
>>> many times by staff, that will always work with the bookshare conversion
>>> tools and give correct navigation:
>>>
>>> Title is bolded and 20 points
>>> Section headings (if the book has them) are bolded and 18 points
>>> Chapter headings are bolded and 16 points
>>> Subsection headings are bolded and 14 points
>>> Text of book is 12 points.
>>>
>>> Regardless of what size fonts are used throughout the book for other
>>> elements, we have been asked to always put the title in 20 points and
>>> bolded, and have the text of the book at 12 points.
>>>
>>> You can do the rest of the font sizes in the book several other ways as
>>> long
>>> as you do the following:
>>> 1. The title is 20 points and bolded.
>>> 2. There is a consistent minimum of two point difference between fonts in
>>> this hierarchy throughout the book.  That's needed for the daisy
>>> conversion
>>> tools to work properly to create navigation points.  Also, the difference
>>> between font sizes should be in even numbers that are divisible by two--
>>> don't make the text 12 points and make the chapter headings 15 points.
>>> It
>>> just makes life easier.
>>> 3. The text of the book is always 12 points.
>>>
>>> You can have the chapter headings bolded and only 14 points, as long as
>>> you
>>> don't have any subsection headings to worry about, but that is not the
>>> preferred guideline.  The preferred guideline is 16 points for chapter
>>> headings. But in a book that doesn't have any subsection headings you can
>>> have the following and still have everything work for daisy conversion:
>>>
>>> Title bolded and 20 points
>>> Chapter headings bolded and 14 points
>>> Text of book is 12 points
>>>
>>> As to the type of font used (Arial, times new roman, tahoma, or whatever)
>>> it
>>> doesn't matter.  The files Bookshare creates from the rtf file that's
>>> submitted change the font type universally to Arial.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps make things clearer. smile.
>>>
>>> Judy s.
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