Thanks. I'll stick to 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, etc.as I've b een doing, regardless of what the retf I download is . smile On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thanks Cindy. smile. > > What you are suggesting as a way to handle a book with subtitles, however, > isn't right for correct DAISY navigation. You can't make the text 13 > points, have the chapter titles 15 points, and make subtitles within the > chapter 11 points. The subtitles must be larger than the text by at least > two points, and at the same time smaller than the chapter headings by at > least two points. If you don't do it that way, the DAISY conversion for > navigation won't work right. In your example, you would have to have the > text 13 points, the chapter subtitles 15 points and the chapter headings 17 > points. This can work, but it can also blow up on you if the book also has > section headings. In that case, you can't squeeze in the section headings > (which would have to be 19 points). You'd end up needing to make the title > 21 points, and that's bigger than we've been told to ever make the title. > The title is supposed to be 20 points. > > It's really best to follow the standardized guideline: > > Title is bolded and 20 points > Section headings (if the book has them) are bolded and 18 points > Chapter headings are bolded and 16 points > Subsection headings are bolded and 14 points > Text of book is 12 points > > Judy s. > > > > On 11/21/2012 7:53 PM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote: >> >> Well put, Judy >> >> And the part bout the font used was interesting and new to me. I have >> always changed the font to Times New Roman even when the file I've >> downloaded has been in something else (I think, a a matter of fact, >> Arial; and I've changed the text to 12 point when it's been in 13 >> point; so I can leav e the text 13 point as long as I remember to make >> the chapter titles 15 point and any subtitles within the chapter, 11 >> point, I guess. >> Thanks. >> >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> Folks, there has been a lot of confusing information regarding this, >>> including what Madeleine just posted. That's because it's all guidelines, >>> not a standard. >>> >>> Here's the guideline that's been used for the last several years, posted >>> many times by staff, that will always work with the bookshare conversion >>> tools and give correct navigation: >>> >>> Title is bolded and 20 points >>> Section headings (if the book has them) are bolded and 18 points >>> Chapter headings are bolded and 16 points >>> Subsection headings are bolded and 14 points >>> Text of book is 12 points. >>> >>> Regardless of what size fonts are used throughout the book for other >>> elements, we have been asked to always put the title in 20 points and >>> bolded, and have the text of the book at 12 points. >>> >>> You can do the rest of the font sizes in the book several other ways as >>> long >>> as you do the following: >>> 1. The title is 20 points and bolded. >>> 2. There is a consistent minimum of two point difference between fonts in >>> this hierarchy throughout the book. That's needed for the daisy >>> conversion >>> tools to work properly to create navigation points. Also, the difference >>> between font sizes should be in even numbers that are divisible by two-- >>> don't make the text 12 points and make the chapter headings 15 points. >>> It >>> just makes life easier. >>> 3. The text of the book is always 12 points. >>> >>> You can have the chapter headings bolded and only 14 points, as long as >>> you >>> don't have any subsection headings to worry about, but that is not the >>> preferred guideline. The preferred guideline is 16 points for chapter >>> headings. But in a book that doesn't have any subsection headings you can >>> have the following and still have everything work for daisy conversion: >>> >>> Title bolded and 20 points >>> Chapter headings bolded and 14 points >>> Text of book is 12 points >>> >>> As to the type of font used (Arial, times new roman, tahoma, or whatever) >>> it >>> doesn't matter. The files Bookshare creates from the rtf file that's >>> submitted change the font type universally to Arial. >>> >>> I hope this helps make things clearer. smile. >>> >>> Judy s. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list >>> of >>> available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >> > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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