It is also important for staff to realize that not only do volunteers not have the newest software and computers, but we may not even have all the old ones or know how to use them. An example that comes to mind is the list of the top submitters and proofers that was recently sent to us. I was curious enough that I tried to open it to take a look, but my computer told me that I did not have the proper software to read it and then offered to search the Internet for something that would read it. I was taken to Microsoft where I could download something that would read spreadsheets. I backed out and said forget it. I was curious about the list, but I was not curious enough to jump into learning another software that I was totally unfamiliar with. My experience tells me that is extremely time consuming and attended by much frustration and exasperation.
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To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:42 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Finding something in the manual - ha! There is a file converter which allows this format to be read by MS Word 2003. I no longer have the link for it, but one could probably do a google search and find it. However, it is important for staff to remember that not all volunteers have the newest software much less the newest computers. I use a desktop purchased in 2003 and use Office 2003, but I did get the file converter that enables me to read dox format. Also just added 1 gb of memory and got a new battery for my mother board--all this is less expensive than a new computer! Lori C.----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Svopa" <mrod16@xxxxxxx>
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You need to have office 2007 I believe to use a .docx file. Monica S -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 5:38 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Finding something in the manual - ha! Well Scott, you've done it again. You've managed to confuse my elderly computer with an attachment it doesn't know what to do with. What program opens a .docs file? Bob (stumbling toward the coffee pot)----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Rains" <scottr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:26 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Finding something in the manual - ha!Reggie, Your experience with Lissi is echoed by others and the appreciation fromseveral new or returning volunteers to the members of this list as a wholeseems genuine. List member do good scanning and proofing work and persist in it but the generosity evident by members of this community in addition is exceptional. Recently we posted the attached simple guidelines that we use to evaluate how difficult a book will be to scan. I recommend that you look for Level 2 books. The Dragonlance books that Grace is promoting are maybe a high Level 2 or low Level 3 because the Chapter headings are in a font that sometimes is hard to OCR. Thanks for volunteering! Scott RainsOn 1/20/11 10:06 AM, "Regina Alvarado" <regina.alvarado6@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Thank you Scott and thanks especially to that technical writer! What a gemthat person is. Definitely will peruse when done and ask here if my inability to work with manuals gets in my way if it does. Must say here publically, with great appreciation, that Lissi has offered to walk methrough things I should know that are new and that Elizabeth has sent me aTXT copy of the manual, although this one will be most likely more up to date. I so appreciate these folks and also those who gave me encouragement. As I told Lissi, I think I will need to do as someone here suggested, possibly Evan, and take things in little bites and not expect so much perfection from myself. Looking at how much had changed all in one lump was just too daunting so I will begin the process of learning over and if something is incorrect I will ask what to do to make it better. I will also ask for a while that when I need a new book to proof that someone here give me an idea which ones will be the easiest for me to proof until I get my understanding of things under me again, and then I can tackle something, such as tables, after that when I am feeling more comfortable. Thanks again, and thanks to Scott and that wonderful technical writer! Reggie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Rains Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:36 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Finding something in the manual - ha! Good morning all, A Silicon Valley technical writer who is an expert in the type of wiki we use donated her entire holiday vacation of 40 hours to coming in to Bookshare to edit and reorder the manual. The end result will be a wiki, DAISY and an RTF version. They edditng is still underway still underway. Scott Rains Benetech Fellow On 1/19/11 6:29 PM, "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Might it be that the manual has not been finalized? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Smith" <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Finding something in the manual - ha!You can always copy the parts you need and paste them in a Word file for easy reference. Melissa Smith On 1/19/2011 10:30 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote:Had trouble with the manual myself Tracy. Had to read virtually the whole manual at the time I read. Wished I had it on my computer for reference but could not find a way to download so just forgot it. Now something flies at me about chapter titles and such. Remembered reading but at the time thought it was directed at scanners. Now I wish even more fervently I had a copy so I could search at will. Reggie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:04 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Finding something in the manual - ha! I wanted to check the procedure for footnotes, so I went to the volunteer manual online. Could I find any reference to footnotes in the proofreader section? Of course not! Could I use the search function at the top of the page? No! Did every little move take a couple minutes before anything came back? Sure! The online manual is a pretty frustrating experience, as it has been for quite a while. I am using an older version of Jaws, but so what. This manual shouldn't be such a pain. Why does it have to be so difficult to find some info quickly? It leads me to figure that it's way more trouble than it's worth, and just take my best guess. Grumble grumble grumble. 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