Or using the Qwerty the same thing. Finding Tab characters would be helpful. By the By this page didn't have them! I couldn't find the one page. sigh, so I put a note in the comments field about it, and hopefully the intrepid volunteer has better luck. I like Mary's idea of putting &&&& or **** in front of pages that cause problems. I am going to do that from now on, as well, sigh, I have way too many things to remember right now. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. -- Vance Havner